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A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:45 pm

Can anyone tell me why a Virgin A343, reg G-VSEA arrived at LHR today from LGW at 14:37 under flight number VS624P?

Odd flight number and route, is it a ferry flight to VS maintenance at LHR?

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donder10
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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:56 pm

Positioning in to LHR after operating a flight from Port Harcourt to Gatwick.
 
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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:58 am

Glenn,

The VS623P/VS624P is a regular ferry flight between LHR and LGW when the a/c is positioned to operate the PHC flight as Donder10 has said.

It usually goes out to LGW in the evening a couple of hours before the flight is due to depart from LGW and returns back to LHR a couple of hours after the flight has arrived back in LGW, although sometimes if the a/c is not needed it may stay at LGW to operate the PHC flight a couple of days later.

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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:04 am

Incidentally how long is the flight?

It would be cool to ride in it - an empty A340, spooky, might be like that haunted VS B744 thread!
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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:12 am

It is actually more convenient now, because the aircraft departs to San Juan on sunday at 11:55 and gets back on Monday at 06:55 then departs to Port harcourt at 23:30, arrives back on wednesday morning then departs on wednesday evening to return on friday morning. So they would probably position the flight from LHR on saturday night, and it would remain at LGW until friday, or would just stay through. I saw G-VSEA at Gatwick on saturday evening, so its obvious that it has just stayed through, then flown back after ops.

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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:36 am

Are positioning flights rostered as a stand-alone sector? It seems silly and expensive to get a crew (albeit just Capt & FO) in just for a 20 minute joyride across Surrey, but the crew would be tired after a long flight in from Africa or California, and the last thing they'd want to do is take 'er back up into the London TMA shitfight. Anyone know?
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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:45 am

Yes they are rostered as a stand alone sector.

In September there will be even more positioning flights with extra flights between Manchester and Orlando using one of the LGW based B744s.
 
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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:08 am

How about the question of why VS registered an Airbus aircraft G-VSEA instead of a Boeing one!  Smile
 
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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:45 pm

I presume there is no way of buying a ticket for this flight? I would love to do that!
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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:56 am

BA380,

Nope not a chance. Not even for us that work there !!.

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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:15 am

Begs the question... why not do the Port Harcourt run direct from LHR? And how much does it cost to do that transfer - thousands of ££££s I'd guess.

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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:47 am

Geoffm - slot constraints? VS flights from LGW tend to be, though are not totally, the leisure orientated destinations. Does PHC come more under that leisure category?
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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:03 am

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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:40 am

Geoffm has a good point actually LHR27C.
The positioning flight obviously takes up an LHR slot, and I'm guessing the landing charge from BAA is irrespective of pax!
 
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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:52 am

Hi Geoffm

When the route was launched the reason we were given for the service operating ex-LGW as opposed to LHR was that a lot of the pax would be transferring onto DFW flights (which all operate ex-LGW). I don't know what percentage actually do carry on to DFW though....

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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:57 am

Hey Planesarecool, since when has VS operated to San Juan, I know they did a charter to San Juan recently but I never heard about a regualr flight there and you mentioned it earlier on in the thread.

On another note its nice to see a VS A343 at LGW, it makes a difference.

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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:03 am

Hi VSFT

It operates every fortnight at the moment and then becomes weekly from 8th Aug til 24th Oct. It's a cruise charter on behalf of P&O.

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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:06 am

Whats Up Airchabum

I did not know that, This flight operates out of LGW??? Do you know the flight number? Learn something new every day..

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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:26 am

Yes it's a regular charter from LGW. There were a couple of 'proving flights' to SJU/MSY last year prior to getting this contract from P&O. The series started on 16 May and from the winter season some flights will go via MAN. Flight nos. are VS9929/9930

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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:21 pm

I wonder why they don't sell seats for the repositioning flight... I reckon quite a few people would be interested in travelling on that for fun and they might be able to cover the landing charge or the fuel by doing so. Alternatively, they could use it as a 'trainer' flight for people on aa fear of flying course? Just a thought, but given the pressure on margins in the airline industry, I would imagine that any extra revenue they can get to cover fixed costs would be worth looking at...
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RE: A343 LGW-LHR VS G-VSEA Today

Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:43 pm

Going back to the original topic, the only point in going to Port Harcourt is for the oil industry - believe me you would not want to go there for a holiday - therefore flying out of LGW, where all (direct BA, CO and hence VS codeshare) flights to/from Houston and Dallas fly to/from makes more sense than Heathrow.

Before the VS flight down there started, there was no direct flight to PH from the UK with only a twice a week Air France effort or going via Lagos, which due to security issues is not very desirable.
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