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Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:51 am

Looking at a picture I took, I just noticed what I consider a lot of engine oil (?) streaming out the back of this plane. Now I understand some is normal on certain engines, but this plane is just taking off.

Can anyone clear this up, or offer an explanation?


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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

If you're referring to the brownish area on the fuselage ahead and below of the #2 engine, that looks like a pre-existing oil/hydraulic stain. To me, anyways.
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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:40 am

I'm no mechanic, but that looks fresh to me. Certainly 727s are prone to exhaust staining, but I'd agree, that looks like engine oil.
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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:57 am

Well, it may be a problem, like a lot of planes that have engine problems and lands everyday in a place on earth, and we don't know because nobody was hurt. This guy surely checked the oil gauge in the cockpit and decided to stay flying or to return.

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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:49 am

I know he didn't return within a few hours while I was there. Sure looks like a lot of oil to me.
 
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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:25 am

It can be caused by OVER filling the oil. The engine will just blow the excess oil out. No big deal. You just need to check the oil within 15 mins of shutdown, or a false reading is possible. Or you need to start the engine and let it stablize to get a good reading.By the way nice photo, I used to work for them, (Custom Air Transport). Thanks for the memorys.
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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:06 am

The JT8-XX can burn / use 2 quarts per hour give or take......This is normal. The just never wiped the cowls between flights( or days).. Also remover it take a little oil to make a mess when you are flying at 500 mph

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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:50 am

I'll have to find the cd I burned the originals on, and check the taxiing shots I took before it took off, but I don't remember seeing anything as it taxiied by.

I remember having to oil the J-79's in our F-4's right after shut down to properly refill the reservoir, but I certainly don't ever remember seeing that much blown out.

I know well how little oil it takes to make a mess, but this puppy was far from 500 mph...
 
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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:54 am

Yes, but we do not know how many legs this AC flew or when the last time the cowls were cleaned. I know at work we wipe that much oil off EVERY DAY...

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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:48 pm

Well, the other picture I have of it is the port side, and it is dirty, but not as bad as this side. I guess they just don't wipe that stuff off often. As far as I could tell, the plane would leave early in the evening, and then I would see it back on the ramp later in the morning the next day.

Flown hard, put away wet.... literally!

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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:59 pm

That plane hasn't been washed in a while, but there is an amazing amount of oil that goes overboard from the engines on the 727.

When I was working for Reeve all of our ticket agents had jackets that where just speckeled with the stuff, and they only had to stand under the engines when the passengers where loading and offloading.
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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:37 pm

I have no idea, but that sure is a nice pic!
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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:55 pm

Yeah very nice pic Jeff.

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: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:51 pm

Am I the only one that can't see the photo???

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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:01 pm

It looked pretty clean other then that stain on the empenage.

Thanks guys..!

Anair, here is a link if you can't see it, I'm not sure why you can't see it, but if you do want to try..

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/629473/L/

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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:43 am

If you think that's bad, you should see the tails of some of the KLM Cityhopper F100/F70 aircraft, they are disgustingly black from engine and APU exhaust fumes. Somebody needs to tell KLM to invest some money in an aircraft clean once in a while
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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:10 am

Guys, this is a beater 727. If it isn't spewing oil over the back of the plane, it's out of oil.  Insane

On any JT8, you shouldn't walk under the engines or you will get spattered with oil from the breather tube or where it drips off the cowling in front of the reversers.

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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:21 am

Oil leakage is normal and expected from the engines of the 727. I spent 4 years as a FA exclusively on the 727, and I have many oil stained shirts from just running up and down the aft stairs. Some aircraft leak more than others.
 
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Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:28 am


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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sun Aug 01, 2004 2:57 am

This is common on all the JT8D engines.

I see it all the time on the old 732's we work here


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RE: Is This Normal On A 727?

Sun Aug 01, 2004 4:05 am

I have this song that I sing; "Mona Leesy You're So Greasy". But none of the lines read, "But not as bad as this".
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