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Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:29 pm

Quick Question....Who is the largest 767 Series operator?? Just wondering..
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MD11LuxuryLinr
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:31 pm

quick answer.. Delta
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:09 pm

Delta....there's a ton of B763's (ER and non), plus a dozen 762's and another dozen 764's....great fleet. Then when you add all the 752's, there's alot of crew commonality to be had. They serve the ATL-FL markets very well too  Smile

Who has the next biggest? AA or CO? Anyone know why there's pics of like 10 AA 762's sitting at Roswell?  Sad

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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:34 pm


I'm pretty sure ANA is up there too.
 
flyboy80
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:05 pm

From what I was aware DL was the largest with a fleet of 100 plus...and AA was the world's second largest... BA fits in there somewhere as well correct?
 
klkla
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:31 pm

Delta - 123 767s
American - 87 767s
United - 55 767s
Continental - 26 767s
US Aiways - 10 767s

Source FAA... Don't know about non US airlines
 
aa777jr
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:44 pm

This is what I found on airliners.net,

DL 121
AA 76
ANA 53
UAL 45
AC 41
JAL 32
UPS 32
QT 28
CO 26
Airborne Express 25
BA 20

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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:58 pm

117 Delta AL
74 American AL
51 All Nippon AW
44 United AL
37 Air Canada
33 Japan AL
32 UPS
27 Airborne Express
27 Qantas
26 Continental AL
21 British AW
16 LAN
14 Alitalia
14 Hawaiian AL
13 Air China
13 Britannia AW (G)
12 KLM
11 Asiana
10 Air New Zealand
10 Condor (D)
10 US AW
9 EVA AW
8 Varig
7 El Al
7 Transaero AL (RA)
7 Vietnam AL
6 AeroMexico
6 Air Europa
6 Australian AL (VH)
6 Ethiopian AL
6 Gulf Traveller (A4O)
6 Kenya AW
5 Aeroflot
5 Avianca
5 Hainan AL (B)
5 LOT Polish AL
5 Martinair
5 Shanghai AL
5 Skymark (JA)
4 Air Algerie
4 Excel AW (G)
4 Japan Defence Force
4 Lauda Air
4 Royal Brunei
3 Aero Continente (OB)
3 Blue Panorama AL (I)
3 Hokkaido (Air Do)
3 Lauda Air Italy
3 North American AL
3 Uzbekistan AW
2 Aerosvit AL (UR)
2 Air Madagascar (5R)
2 Air Mauritius
2 Air Nippon (JA)
2 Air Seychelles
2 Air Zimbabwe
2 Brunei Gvmt
2 China Eastern AL
2 East African Safari Air (5Y)
2 Eritrean AL (E3)
2 First Choice AW (G)
2 HollandExel (PH)
2 Japan Asia
2 Kras Air (RA)
2 LAB Lloyd Aereo Boliviano (CP)
2 MALEV
2 MyTravel AW (G)
2 Royal Air Maroc-RAM
2 Zoom AL (C)
1 ABSA Cargo (PT)
1 Air Gabon
1 Air Niugini
1 Air Pacific
1 ARAMCO
1 Av8Air (G)
1 Belair (HB)
1 BelgiumExel (OO)
1 Boeing Integrated Defence & Space
1 BRA TA (PR)
1 China Yunnan
1 Etihad AW (A6)
1 Euro Atlantic AW (CS)
1 Florida West
1 Garuda Indonesian AW
1 Global Jet Luxembourg
1 Gulf Air (A4O)
1 Icelandair (TF)
1 Israir (4X)
1 Kalair (Exec)
1 Kazakstan AL (UN)
1 MAS Air Cargo (XA)
1 Mexicana (XA)
1 Mid East Jet
1 Nationwide (ZS)
1 Phoenix Avtn (EX)
1 PLUNA (CX)
1 Prince Alwaleed BTBAAS (HZ)
1 Sheikh Mustafa Edrees
1 Slovak AL (OM)
1 Universal AL (Guinee)
1 Southern Winds (LV)
1 Volare AL (I)

830 total is
11 w/o
2 scr
77 std
920 total built offic 920

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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:37 pm

Deltaguy,
there's pics of "LIKE" 10 AA 762's sitting at Roswell?

Does that mean more than 10, or less than 10? Kind of yanking your cord a bit, but I want to be sure what it means.
 
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:44 pm

http://www.767.org.uk Might shed some light on 767 operators.
 
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:23 pm

As klkla said.

Delta has 123 767's

15- 767-200's, Ships 101-115
36- 767-300's, Ships 116-139, 1401-1404, 1701-1708
51- 767-300ER's, Ships 171-199, 1200-1201, 1501-1506, 1521, 1601-1613
21- 767-400ER's, Ships 1801-1821

Total - 123
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 10:14 pm

There are a total of 14 American 767-200s sitting in the desert that have been grounded, in order for AA to cut down on capacity, as well as 28 former TWA MD-80s for the same reason. AA is hoping that someday those plpanes will return to service, but I'm not holding my breath. Eight of them are standard 200s, and the remaining six are the ER version. The first eight are getting long in the tooth- 22 years old.

The 15 762s still being used by AA are used almost exclusively on the JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO runs, although this summer they're also being used for JFK-MIA and JFK-BDA. They are all 767-223ERs.

AA also has 58 767-323ERs in the fleet. 49 of the -300s are the original Classics with the '80s interiors, and the last 9 AA received last year have the new look interior.
 
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:05 pm

Anyone know why there's pics of like 10 AA 762's sitting at Roswell?
and:
There are a total of 14 American 767-200s sitting in the desert that have been grounded, in order for AA to cut down on capacity, as well as 28 former TWA MD-80s for the same reason. AA is hoping that someday those plpanes will return to service, but I'm not holding my breath. Eight of them are standard 200s, and the remaining six are the ER version. The first eight are getting long in the tooth- 22 years old.

I believe that those 762s were removed with no plans to bring them back (due to reducing capacity and to simply the fleet), and AA has said that they want to remove the other 762s, but I do not see that happening for a while due to them being used on those mentioned routes.

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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:28 pm

In our employee newsletter, the Flagship News, Mr. Arpey said he'd like to return the grounded 762s if the economy warrants.
 
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:31 pm

In our employee newsletter, the Flagship News, Mr. Arpey said he'd like to return the grounded 762s if the economy warrants.
I would like to see that happen, but some people on the forums really dis-like the 762 for some reason.

If they return back to service, would AA consider not doing joint-762/763 safety cards?  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:03 am

AA already does joint 762-763 safety cards, with the latest version from July 2003.
 
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:12 am

Anyone know why there's pics of like 10 AA 762's sitting at Roswell?
and:
There are a total of 14 American 767-200s sitting in the desert that have been grounded, in order for AA to cut down on capacity, as well as 28 former TWA MD-80s for the same reason. AA is hoping that someday those plpanes will return to service, but I'm not holding my breath. Eight of them are standard 200s, and the remaining six are the ER version. The first eight are getting long in the tooth- 22 years old.

I believe that those 762s were removed with no plans to bring them back (due to reducing capacity and to simply the fleet), and AA has said that they want to remove the other 762s, but I do not see that happening for a while due to them being used on those mentioned routes.


According to Sabre one of the Roswell airplanes has come out and has gone to Kansas City for work. I think it was N319AA. Also the TWA MD-80's are coming out of the desert as soon as they can configure them to AA standards.


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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:09 am

Are CO's 764's leased? Or is it DL? The last two letters in the reg. are MH. Now DL has many different 2 dig. regs. DL, DE, WA, DN, But why MH? Is this just for their 764 fleet?

Thanks for the help!

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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:25 am

Of Delta's 767's

24 of the 767-300's are leased and 8 of the 767-300ER's are leased. The rest of the 767's are being purchased by Delta or owned by Delta.

I don't know for certain why DL has MH on the 764 registrations but I think it does have to do with the financing company.
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:37 am

AA already does joint 762-763 safety cards, with the latest version from July 2003.
My question, although a joke, was if they would not: "If they return back to service, would AA consider not doing joint-762/763 safety cards?"

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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:51 am

Great to hear an extensive conversation!  Smile
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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:27 am

I think by now you have your answer... Delta is at the top!

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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:30 am

AA should not be allowed to be on any lists. To me it's just too unfair. They are doing so well and have so many a/c b/c of that one merger. What would the airline look like now with out the TWA a/c.

Thanks again!

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RE: Largest 767 Series Operator

Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:16 pm

AA is NOT doing well- bankruptcy is still a possibility, due to its incredible debt burden. AA made money in the last quarter, but it's not enough to cover its debt. They would still be the largest carrier even without the TWA buyout.