mkeflyer717
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YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:13 am

I've been checking out prices out of MKE to various cities and discovered that NWA beat Midwest with lower prices on a couple routes that are supposed to be 'saver service'. Here are some of the routes-

MKE-MCO
YX- $262
NW-$229

MKE-LAS
YX- $286
NW-$256

MKE-LAX (the worst one for YX)
YX-$358
NW-$280

I don’t find $358 to be a saver! Can anyone explain why YX has such high fares on those routes compared to NWA. This doesn’t make sense. This makes NW look like a low-fare carrier!  Nuts
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PHX757
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:19 am

because maybe their planes are getting booked? and NW's aren't...

or maybe just because people like me are willing to fork over some more money for a warm cookie...  Smile (ohh yah..and happy flight attendents)

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FutureFO
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:09 am

Its called low fare sell outs. I found a sale on YX for a 2day advance purchase MCO-MKE r/t was 176.20 including taxes. It just depends on how far in advance you look at booking the fare.


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Skyway1
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:21 pm

Phx757......

I can with certainty have to tell you they are not selling out! On most days YX only has one N/S MKE-LAX. I browsed the loads for most of Midwest's cities today at work and the only flight that was overbooked(in the near future that I saw) was the evening flight tomorrow MKE-DEN(booked 148 out of 147).

Chris
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Northwest717
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:09 pm

Oh yea, they can be a little pricier, but believe me, their "Saver Service" is definitely better than NW first. I have flown NW first extensively, and it is nothing special. YX "Saver Service" definitely beats it! Check out my trip report: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/47282/! It is definitely worth the extra cash and it is definitely a better deal than NW first! Hope that helps you!  Big thumbs up

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[Edited 2004-08-09 06:19:33]
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tekelberry
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:17 pm

Mkeflyer717 & Skyway1,

The flight may not be sold out, but the fare bucket may be. For example, let's say YX's cheapest booking class is L. YX limits the # of tickets booked in L class to 50. Once those 50 L tickets have been sold, it goes up to the next lowest booking class, hence the higher fare.

[Edited 2004-08-09 06:21:48]
 
mkeflyer717
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:31 pm

Tim,

Great trip report! Don't get me wrong I am a Midwest fan and I also prefer to fly midwest over NW. About a month ago I took YX to DEN. Service was pretty good and the seats were comfortable for being cloth, but we didn't get any cookies.  Crying I just wish Midwest’s fares were a little lower, but I guess the price fit’s the quality of service as everyone else has mentioned.  Smile
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Northwest717
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:35 pm

Mkeflyer717,

I'm sorry you didn't get any cookies! When was your flight? Morning? They tend to not serve cookies on morning flights. Sorry!

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smcmac32msn
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:53 pm

I was looking for MSN-CMH flights a couple weeks back (more like a month ago, but thats another story), and I found YX to be the cheapest at the time I started looking at $188.90 vs. $202.90 on NW. Well, YX price went up to $224 by the time I was ready to buy (had the money) so YX can be cheaper depending when you look. I've seen MSN-CMH as low as $163 on short purchases. Ended up paying an extra $3 over NWs fare to fly CO through CLE, vs NW through MSP.
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mkeflyer717
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:56 pm

Yeah, I was on the morning flight that leaves at 7:20 AM. It was a good flight, but the draw back was I was traveling with a group of 33 people so I didn’t have much time to watch planes. I sat in seat 2A there and back. When we arrived at DEN the pilot let me snap a picture up in the cockpit. I’m hopefully going to be flying Midwest again this time to MCO and I’ll make my first trip report. I’m glad you enjoyed Midwest and MKE!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Mizzou65201
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:49 pm

I am a LAX-MKE road ... er ... air warrior and FutureFO is right on. NW is not always cheaper than YX on the route, it just depends on whether the cheaper fare classes like L, T, and W are available or already sold. For instance, LAX-MKE via the NW nonstop, leave Sep 30 return Oct 3, went from $247 on Thursday to $280 on Friday to $303 on Saturday. Meanwhile YX stayed constant at about $280.

This and similar experiences have had me find that YX's lowest fare is never lower than NW's, but NW has a much smaller inventory of those low fares (i.e. they go quickly.) But NW is also more ruthless than YX, from what I've seen, in slashing the fares when a flight really isn't selling. I've made some MKE trips on quite empty NW planes for about $200/rt, including taxes. YX never seems to get that low...but, then again, YX's planes never seem to be that empty.

Side note: I really do like the Saver Service...granted, if given a choice I'd pick a wider leather seat...but if it translates to helping out YX's bottom line and keeping them in the air, I'm all for it. And while I don't have any problems with NW's inflight product per se, YX easily has them beat.
 
Skyway1
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RE: YX Saver Service? Yeah Right!

Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:58 pm

Tekelberry.....

Yes I do know that cheap classes of service are probably sold out  Nuts  Nuts It depends on what day and flights he selected....as some days the MKE-LAX flight is no where near full. Even on the MKE-LAS flights(3 a day), the first 2 flights usually are booked in the 100's.....but the last flight is never booked any where near capacity. Even MKE-MCO at most times is not anywhere near capacity...which in that case $262 is a great fare.

Chris
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