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Lufthansa "Loss Of Control"

Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:27 am

Hello everybody!

"Yesterday at around 6PM local time a Lufthansa AVRO was experiencing a loss of control shortly before landing at GRZ (my home airport). They were circling the area for about 30-40 minutes and then landed by steering via the 4 engines. The plane landed safely and nobody was hurt."

This was the information that Lufthansa published yesterday.

Today they claim that: "Control was only lost on the F/O's side. The Cpt.'s controls were fully working. They spent the 30-40 minutes in the air to check all the systems, the Cpt. then safely landed the plane as he had full control of all systems."

I was there and the plane is still parked. I think the reg. was D-AVRO. http://www.airliners.net/open.file/116515/M/

I just browsed the web and found this report featuring a similar "loss of control" incident of the same aircraft dated back 3 years ago over London.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/FACTOR200308.PDF

Quite Interesting me thinks  Big grin !

Regards,

Jstflyin

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RE: Lufthansa "Loss Of Control"

Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:08 am

quite interesting indeed...

but you just started a whole new topic on this item just 3 minutes after replying the original post with the exact same text...

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RE: Lufthansa "Loss Of Control"

Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:55 pm

I don't see another topic on this - what's the name of the thread?

Anyway, highly doubt this plane landed on engine control alone. Don't think that's ever been done successfully, nor probably could it be (trim settings, phugoid effect, flaps, etc.). The DC-10 in Sioux City came close but if those pilots couldn't do it, I doubt anyone could (simulator tests showed it couldn't be done afterwards).

It would at the very least be a huge story, all over every aviation web site. These pilots would be being called heroes.

The incident posted that happened previously does not sound similar to the current incident as described. The earlier incident was due to a faulty yaw damper, and because of that it obviously affected both pilots. If the current incident affected only the co-pilot, it could only be a problem with his control linkages - the wiring from his joystick to the computers, for example.

Two "control problems" can each have a completely different cause and be totally unrelated... that's what it sounds like in this case.
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