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CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:52 am

CX's fleet will exceed 100 aircraft after committing to eight used Boeing 747-400s, half of which will be converted into freighters. The aircraft will be obtained from a number of owners and operators and arrive from now through 2006. The airline plans to purchase seven and lease one other.

This acquisition follows orders made earlier this year for one new B747-400 freighter plus two new B777-300 and six new Airbus 330-300s to join the airline's regional fleet. These combined commitments will swell the airline's operating fleet from 86 all-wide-body aircraft at present to 103 in just over three years, after the final A330-300s arrive. This additional investment will add to the approximate 20 percent increase in passenger capacity made by the airline in the past two years.

Six of the eight aircraft will be powered by Pratt & Whitney 4056-3 engines and the other two by the Rolls-Royce RB211-524. All the aircraft are of a similar age to the B747-400s already in operation with the airline. Cathay Pacific currently operates 19 B747-400 passenger and 5 B747-400 freighter aircraft.

Four of the newly acquired aircraft will support the expansion of Cathay Pacific's passenger fleet, following a complete retrofit so that the aircraft and cabin meet the same standards as existing Cathay Pacific aircraft. The other four will be converted into freighters and deployed on trunk routes to Europe and North America.

In January this year, Cathay Pacific announced it would be the world's first airline to take part in the new B747-400 passenger-to-freighter conversion programme, and has so far committed to convert six aircraft with options on six more.
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:05 am

Where are these aircraft coming from? I'm assuming the 6 PW powered aircraft are coming from SQ. But what about the RR examples? BA and QF don't seem to want to ditch any, particularly the latter. That only leaves NZ and SA and again, neither of those are ditching RR examples are they? Or is SA disposing of a pair in a couple of years?
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:27 am

SQ is selling 3-4 B 747-400s to CX
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:42 am

That's great for CX! Now maybe they can expand service to Chicago. Insane
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:17 am

SQ sold 5 744's to Dragon Air and 3 to CX. There is talk of one RR 744 coming from SAA.
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:28 am

....and talk of the other from BA....and the other 3 P&W ones from UA.
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:52 am

Do the new planes have anything to do with route expansion?
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:26 am

No, they will not expand their service. These aircraft will be parked around CLK to make it look more busy than it is  Nuts
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:33 pm

Seems as though 6 will be from SQ and two from South African now.
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:06 pm

Do the conversion (pax to freighter) retain the SUD? Thanks
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:25 pm

Yes they do .
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:53 pm

1 leased from SQ (9V-SMN)
3 bought from SQ
2 PW-powered 744s from unknown source
2 RR-powered 744s most likely from SAA

All aircraft aqired are 10 years or older.

This will create a mix of RR- and PW-powered aircraft in both pax- and cargo-fleets!
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:58 am

Three of them were previously owned by Singapore Airlines, three of them owned by 'another party' but operated by Singapore Airlines. The two RR 744s were owned by someone else but operated by South African Airways.
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:08 am

All-widebody-fleet. Sounds impressive...
CX must be very short on 747s, I don`t think that they would buy 747s with different engines under normal circumstances, or do they already operate different engines in the -400 fleet?
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:18 am

These will be the first non-Rolls Royce 747-400s to join the fleet. At the moment, almost every long-haul port is asking for more capacity, so the 747 is definately in demand, and the freighters are the busiest they have been so more freighters are needed, especially in light of declining reliability of the classic freighters.
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:01 am

Oh, no wonder why CX tickets are so hard/expensive from London, looks like they are doing really well. Are there anymore 744 coming after this?

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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:01 pm

I remember flying CX in the 80s. "The only airline in the world with only widebodies powered by Rolls-Royce engines". That was 742s and L-1011s IIRC.
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:32 pm

These will be the first non-Rolls Royce 747-400s to join the fleet

CXflyboy, do you guys in CX need additional trainings for handling PW-powered aircraft?
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:54 pm

I'm placing my bet now that the P&W's are going to be ex-UA a/c. QF needs more 744's. SQ has already dumped all of the ones that they are planning on dumping. The 2 MH 744's that Boeing has (do they still?) I think are RR powered (Isn't MH a mainly RR airline?). That leaves UA a/c!

Could they convert 742's into Cargo? I think VS has a few old 742's in the desert.... Thanks again!

And isn't CX interested in the 777-300/ER? Will we be seeing any orders? Or do they already have one?

Thanks again!

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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:04 pm

(Isn't MH a mainly RR airline?).

Not they are a GE operator on the 744's atleast.

Could they convert 742's into Cargo?

Yes but no because I believe they plan to replace their 742F's with these 744SF's.

And isn't CX interested in the 777-300/ER? Will we be seeing any orders? Or do they already have one?

Yes I have heard they are and there could be an order quite soon, then again we may not see one for a few years.
 
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:08 pm

UA just seem to digging their own grave, they rejected the bid from TG and we assume they did not like the offer from CX.......
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RE: CX To Top 100 Aircraft

Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:55 pm

AC,

Yes all the 744 pilots will have to do a short course about the operation of the P&W engines along with a short exam.

UA777222,

It has already been announced that all 6 P&W aircraft will be coming fro SQ and the two RR ones from SAA.

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