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Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:37 am

The last 757 fuselage rolled off the line in Boeing Wichita this week.
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/business/companies/
The article states that it is the 1,050 th to be delivered, and is for China's Shanghai Industries. Boeing Wichita builds the fuselage sections.
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:47 am

Sad to see them go. At first I hated these a/c b/c I thought that they were so small and would be a real pain to fly for more than a few hours and I took an AA 757 from ORD-SJU. The cabin sucked, the crew sucked, but the a/c was GREAT! Handled the wx like a beast. Landing was smooth. And the overall flight was uneventful.

Though this might be the last 757 off the line the a/c still has history making to do. With the CO winglet program coming soon we can start to see these be placed on many a/c. I would be on CO's an NW's fleet first.

Expect to see much of the 757 for time to come!

Thanks again!

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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:51 am

Sad to see 757 going too.....but it's a great aircraft and we would still see it a lot of time.....

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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichi

Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:26 am

A shame for everyone involved. I'm sure Boeing could have sold at least 1250 if the industry wasn't in such a deep economic depression, however, 1050 is nothing to sneeze at. IMO the 757 is the most versatile commercial aircraft Boeing has produced to date, and despite conventional wisdom the 739 and A321 really aren't adequate alternatives in terms of range, payload capability, and performance. I'm sure the majority of the fleet will soldier on for many years to come in both the passenger and freighter roles, possibly the DC-3 of its generation. The winglet conversion program should also prove to be popular.
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:09 am

Is the last 752 for Shanghai Airlines or Xiamen Airlines?
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:16 am

"Expect to see much of the 757 for time to come!"

Especially since Northwest owns so many of them!! heehee.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:48 am

139 American AL
96 United
85 Delta
71 UPS
66 Northwest


Kim777fan,

NW is at the bottom of the top 5. With just the top 5 added together that's 457 frames. That will keep the 757 in the skies for a WHILE.

Thanks again!

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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:48 pm

All I have to say is that the 757-200 is a great airplane. When I'm booking travel, I'll go out of my way to look for the 752. It's the sports car of the airliners and a joy to ride on!
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:02 pm

UA777222,

I was trying to make a sly reference to to NW's penchant for operating an aircraft a loooooooong time, not so much that they owned the highest number of 757's.
 
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:47 pm

I SAY DITCH THE 737 LINE.

KEEP THE 757 GOING and develop a line of narrow bodies around the 757 line.

Boeing is pushing me closer to Airbus and that sux.

IF there are any Boeing people out there I will tell you this when you merged with MD you had a formidable line of aircraft that could have matched Airbus one to one but in your rush to eliminate the MD line you gave airbus the lead in everything. Think of it if you all updated and improved the MD products and marketed them better all the customers that switched to airbus you would have retained.

I throw a challenge out to you folks at Boeing. MD Had a Double Decker aircraft the MD12. I challenge you to dust off the drawings and offer it as an alternative to the A380 or should I just look to Airbus for all my aircraft needs.
 
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:02 pm

I remember Eastern Airlines CEO saying after one year of 757 operations that its a great aircraft and that Boeing will end up selling more 757's than 727's, unfortunately he missed by almost 800 units ( 1831 727's - 1050 757's ), probably one of the main reasons of its demise is Boeing's own 738/9.
 
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:43 pm

Which Euro carrier got the most 757 in fleet??

Thx

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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:16 pm

The previous 757 fleets posted are a little off-

AA has 140, not 139 752s- 16 are former TWA 752s which will be retired

DL has 121, of which 36 are in the Song operation
 
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichi

Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:17 pm

Mike,
Britannia - 20
DHL - 20
Thomas Cook (Condor) - 19
First Choice - 17
Iberia - 17
Thomas Cook (JMC) - 17
Icelandair - 14
British Airways - 13
European Air Transport - 13
Monarch - 7
Finnair - 6
Star Air Freight - 4
Air Finland - 3
DutchBird - 3
Excel Airways - 3

A tad more than you asked for but I hope that helps.  Big thumbs up

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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:36 pm

I SAY DITCH THE 737 LINE.

KEEP THE 757 GOING and develop a line of narrow bodies around the 757 line.

Boeing is pushing me closer to Airbus and that sux.

There is no reason why Boeing should stop production of the best-selling airliner in history and keep production going of a plane that airlines have not expressed an interest in lately.

Will Boeing use the date that the last 757 takes off for its delivery flight as the date of the 757 ending production?

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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:40 pm

You're not going to see the 757-200 disappearing from USA flight routes anytime soon.

Especially now with the increasing chance we may see pretty severe slot restrictions at the largest US airports, which could mean airlines will be forced to fly large planes to keep up with seating capacity due to less landing slots available. That could mean we'll see much more 752 ops out of JFK, ORD, LAX, SFO, MIA, and so on.

Besides, the 752 is still a pretty good plane for the longer USA domestic routes. I wouldn't be surprised we see a re-engining program in a few years (maybe Pratt & Whitney will build a 41,000 lb. thrust geared front fan turbofan for this purpose  Smile ) and possible interior upgrades.
 
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:22 am

For all intents and purposes, there isn't a difference between a short 757 and a long 737NG.
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:01 am

I agree with SafetyDude... The Boeing airliner that seems to be moving the slowest off the assembly line and into use with the airlines appears to be the 767 line. I mean, beyond DL and CO, is anybody actually using them?
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:04 am

Uh... I should have read my own message more carefully when I posted it! Sorry! What I meant was the 767-400 line... THAT one seems to be used only by DL and CO.
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:09 am

Good olde Song, my favorite airline (or spawn of an airline) will keep these great planes going in line colored glory out of my home airport. I also ride a lot of UA, regular DL, and US birds out of here as well since we never seem to get many 777's out of here for some reason, but the 757 will always have a place in my heart.
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:38 am

What I meant was the 767-400 line... THAT one seems to be used only by DL and CO.
Indeed: CO and DL are the only airlines that operate the 764. Boeing did a "World Tour" of the 764 to possibly get more customers, but nothing ever came out of it. Someone can tell you more.

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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:23 am

I was trying to make a sly reference to NW's penchant for operating an aircraft a loooooooong time, not so much that they owned the highest number of 757's.

Does anyone know when NWA will be retiring their 757's?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:33 am



Such a sad sight, knowing this will be the last.
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:34 am

Sad to see the 757 line coming to a close but at least Wichita can soon look forward to having its part in the 7E7 project. Since I got back, I notice that there still seems to be some lingering uncertainty over Boeing Wichita. They're thinking about employee ownership now?
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:40 am

A sad day, however, it is economics at stake and if the orders don't come through there is no point continuing a loss making production line. As stated above, the 757 is a very reliable, and fairly modern aircraft and will no doubt be in US and European skies for many years to come. Its popular status amongst European charter and scheduled carriers, and with AA, UA, DL and NW in the US guarantee that.

IMO it is a really beautiful aircraft, and the acceleration with a light payload on take off belongs more to a rocket than a civil airliner Big grin. Here's to many more years of successful 757 operation!
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:43 am

For all intents and purposes, there isn't a difference between a short 757 and a long 737NG.

There is - RANGE.
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757-200s are ideal for the transatlantic routes with lower load factors.

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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:55 am

"Is the last 752 for Shanghai Airlines or Xiamen Airlines?"

I believe this one is going to Shanghai Airlines...
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RE: Last 757 Fuselage Off The Line At Boeing Wichita

Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:05 am

I remember Eastern Airlines CEO saying after one year of 757 operations that its a great aircraft and that Boeing will end up selling more 757's than 727's, unfortunately he missed by almost 800 units ( 1831 727's - 1050 757's ), probably one of the main reasons of its demise is Boeing's own 738/9

It would be quite easy to label the 757 a disappointment in comparison to the 727 (recall that it was initially conceived as the 727-300), but that's not the case if you consider the whole picture.

The 757/767 duo were higher capacity replacements for the 727 and 707. Actually, it was a smart move to go bigger, since the 737 was thus given more room to grow (initially to the capacity of the 727-100, then 727-200 and beyond).

If you consider that the "bottom half" of the 727 market was divvied among the 737 (-300 and -400 initially), MD-80 and A320, the numbers for the 757 are quite healthy. Also, Boeing was able to offer a single product which could fulfill the missions of both a 727 and 707.

Amazingly enough, I haven't ridden on one yet; however, I'm looking forward to my first opportunity next month on a UA LAX-EWR roundtrip. We're also "due" to go to Hawaii soon, so there's a good chance of getting onboard another one. Of course, they'll be around for years to come...

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