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Gulfstream Continental Connection E-120's?

Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:47 pm

I heard that Gulfstream down in Florida is to get some ex-ASA E-120's...Anyone else heard of this? It was rumored that they would get ATR's and even E-120's from Continental Express a few years ago but never happened. If so how many are they getting? I know Lakeland Air has at least one ex-ASA Brasilia.
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kim777fan
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RE: Gulfstream Continental Connection E-120's?

Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:15 pm

Could happen as ASA retired quite a few of the Braslias not all that long ago while still in very good operating condition.

It would represent a capacity boost over the Beechcraft 1900D's now in service at Gulfstream.
 
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RE: Gulfstream Continental Connection E-120's?

Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:25 pm

There has been ASA 120 sightings at the hanger in FLL by 9R.
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RE: Gulfstream Continental Connection E-120's?

Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:02 am

I've heard from a reputable source at MIA that they are getting EMB-120's so there must be something to it.
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RE: Gulfstream Continental Connection E-120's?

Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:16 am

The Gulfstream/Continental rumor concerning E120s and ATRs replacing the current B1900s and Dash 7s has been circulating for a while - I first heard the rumor as CO was quickly replacing its ATRs with ERJs at the EWR hub a few years ago. Now, the rumor is hot again, with a lot of talk about the E120s; as CO re-launched service to some destinations with Skywest operating ex-CO Express E120s at IAH as Continental Connection, it would seem that the same type of arrangement could be make with Gulfstream for the intra-Florida and Bahamas routes. I think that CO could certainly use a little extra capacity on the FLL-NAS and FLL-FPO routes operated by Gulfstream - those B1900s seem to go out at capacity very often on those routes.
 
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RE: Gulfstream Continental Connection E-120's?

Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:56 am

Looks like they are receiving a second one...

Airline Atlantic Southeast Airlines
Flight Number 9326
Departure City (Airport) Hot Springs, AR (HOT)
Departure Time 08/17/2004 02:50 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Fort Lauderdale, FL (FLL)
Arrival Time 08/17/2004 07:05 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type Embraer Brasilia EMB-120
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived
717, 727, 731, 732, 733, 734, 735, 73G, 738, 752, 753, 762, 763, 777, DC9, MD80, DC10, L1011, ERJ, CRJ, ATR, DH8, A300,
 
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RE: Gulfstream Continental Connection E-120's?

Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:44 am

Dutchjet,

Im confused by your post. E120s and ATRs replacing B1900s and Dash-7s? The ATRs have been long gone and Dash-7s?? Where are Continental operating Dash-7s or 8s for that matter?

Just curious... why would Continental bring back the ATR? Of all props, I thought Continental had a LOT of trouble with that one in particular!!

And whats wrong with the B1900? Not that I love flying on them, but I thought they were operationally sensible to operate?

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RE: Gulfstream Continental Connection E-120's?

Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:33 pm

GIA has a E120 from ASA N282AS for a few weeks now, and will be recieveing about 6 in total for the upcoming 4 months. They will supplement the BE190's. The E120's aren't flying the line yet, but will be doing proving runs very soon. The Brasillias are painted all white for now, cant wait to see them in Continental Connection colors.
 
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RE: Gulfstream Continental Connection E-120's?

Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:40 pm

JBLU,

Dutchjet was referring to Gulfstream replacing the B1900s and Dash 7s with E120s and ATRs, not CO. CO was originally going to supply Gulfstream with the ATRs to fly intra-coastal routes from FLL as a capacity upgrade, but that deal never came to light.
I am a bit surprised that the E120s are coming from ASA, but then again, there may not be too many COEX E120s still parked in the desert as some are flying for SkyWest here in IAH and others have gone on to fly for NASCAR teams.

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SegmentKing
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RE: Gulfstream Continental Connection E-120's?

Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:32 am

the CoEX Brasilias are the RT models and 3M needs the ER version. Paint is just paint. Engines & performance are a BIT MORE COSTLIER!!

The planes are going to be used to the Bahamas and open up new Florida-Bahamas routes, although I doubt we'll see them in Key West & Marsh Harbour. When I was in Planning with FCA/Florida Coastal, I worked with Embraer for 3 weeks on possibly picking up the Rio Sol Brasilias (the last to be built) and we just couldn't get the operational numbers to work for our largest markets - KW and Marsh... the runways aren't long enough. We could come in with 30 passengers and 45 bags, but could only depart with 25 passengers and 30 bags.

WE DID, however, find some markets perfect for the Brasilia for both domestic and Bahamian flying... just have to wait & see if Gulfstreams finds these same routes..

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