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Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:12 pm

So how many B 747-300s and B 747-400s have been upgraded? Which ones are they? How many B 747-400s are equipped with first class seats?

It really took them a while and I believe they are still doing it.
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:16 pm

All 744's have PTV's and about 13-14 now have skybeds. 22 744's are 3 class and 8 are 2 class.

VH-EBU is the only 743 in service that has not yet been upgraded, VH-EBV and EBW are due back in service soon after they have had the upgrades done and a D-check!
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:24 pm

So will EBU be upgraded?

There are B 747 service from Sydney to Brisbane and not the other way round. How come?
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:22 pm

There are B 747 service from Sydney to Brisbane and not the other way round. How come? It would be a re-positioning flight. Instead of the return flight going back to Brisbane, it would go to SYD or MEL
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:39 pm

Sorry I don't understand. There are 747 services from Sydney to Brisbane, but not Brisbane to Sydney (At least not that I know of.)
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:51 pm

I think you are thinking of QF25/QF26.

SYD-BNE (repositioning basically)
BNE-AKL
AKL-LAX & vice versa.

There is also a codeshare flight with JAL which is QF3--? anyway, that flight goes BNE-SYD-Kansai, so you may have come across that one.

 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:23 pm

Do they fly back to Sydney?

What about the B 747-300?

 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:40 pm

from SYD to BNE with B747 you have QF175,25,19 and 51 (QF97 is serviced by a 763), whilst for BNE to SYD you have QF20,26 and 52. All operate as revenue flights but as they operate from the International terminals they serve as feeder connecting flights / positioning. They can also be sold as domestic segments as well

The KIX flights (QF373/374 ops by JL) operate BNE to KIX via SYD but return non stop KIX to BNE. As such QF cannot sell ther domestic portion as a domestic flight.

The two 743's in storage are due to return in late AUG for BOM services and the second aircraft I hear conflicting reports of between SEP04' (reported in posts) and MAR 05' (Australian Aviation).

With regards to EBU (it is not scheduled as yet)

All 3 class refurbs (Skybed and other first class modifications) should be completed by MAR 2005 whilst 2 x class 744's should be completed by end 2005. (Latest update from QF Jul04'). Of course this schedule may change

Click on below for the latest.

http://www.qantas.com.au/info/flying/travelClasses/businessChanges?lk=promo
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:36 pm

What about the B 747-300s they fly from Sydney to Brisbane? Which ones they normally use? Are they being upgraded?

Guess they will all be upgraded eventually right?
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:01 am

what about the 743 that will do SYD - BOM?
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:31 am

Goodness, all 743's will be upgraded!

The 743's from SYD to BNE are part International flights so any aircraft is possible just depends on which is scheduled! Same with the SYD-BOM service once it starts!
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:22 am

Does anyone have the latest information on the Skybed upgrade. More importantly the new Pacific Config with 14F/64J/???Y. Which aircraft is down at avalon now, and which aircraft is next to be refitted. Thanks
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:03 pm

Corsscheck,

Aussie747 provided a link in reply 7 with an update on the skybed rollout.
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:36 pm

Thanks ANstar, however the Qantas website does not give information on the proposed new Pacific Skybed Config, not does it provide information on which aircraft are currently at Avalon having their reconfig,s completed. Hope someone can help me with this. Regards
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:26 pm

Hi Crosscheck.

Click on below for the latest on that discussion with the pacific configured 744's. The frst aircraft coming online is VH-OEE in November with all to be cpmpleted by MAR 05.

http://www.vpmag.com/yssy/viewtopic.php?t=8701
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:41 pm

What do you mean by Pacific Config?
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:10 pm

Qantas have 2 different configurations on their 3 class 744's, Pacific configured aircraft operate mainly to LAX and Kangaroo aircraft go to HKG and LHR mainly via SIN and BKK.
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:32 pm

What are the differences????
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:47 pm

Put simply, Pac aircraft have more J seats and fewer Y seats than the Roo config.
M88, 722, 732, 733, 734, 73G, 73H, 742, 743, 744, 752, 762, 763, 772, 773, 77W, 320, 332, 333, 345, 388, DH8, SF3 - want
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:31 am

To put it in even more simplier terms.

The RR powered a/c do Europe/HKG/BKK and SIN and the GE powered machines do LAX/JFK and occasionally to HKG.

VH-OJF and OJG were both scheduled to be done very soon if not already as was OEG.

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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:40 am

At this stage does anyone have a rough idea on how many 743s will have been upgraded by April/June next year? as I will be (all going well) flying on one
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:07 pm

At this stage does anyone have a rough idea on how many 743s will have been upgraded by April/June next year? as I will be (all going well) flying on one

All of them I would imagine, EBU is the only one in service now that hasn't had the upgrade!
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:19 pm

Where does EBU normally fly to?
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:23 pm

Where does EBU normally fly to?

All the 743's fly the same routes EBU is no different, so SYD, BNE, AKL, HNL, MNL, NRT, SIN mainly plus some PER-SIN flights will have 743's in the Southern summer!
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:24 pm

Where does EBU normally fly to?

Usually placed on the AKL route (QF43/44). I have had this aircraft both times over the past three months. (well it has been the one with no PTV screens)
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:31 pm

Hasn't been to AKL very much lately though really though the 743's only come 3x weekly soon only 2.  Sad I personally haven't seen her for a few months.
 
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RE: Qantas B 747 Upgrades

Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:33 pm

Maybe to Japan????? Doesn't seem that the SYD-NRT is very competitive. Who is doing better? JAL or QF? I mean on the SYD-NRT route. Which airline has a bigger market share?