radelow
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American West 757 Age

Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:17 pm

I just booked a flight from San Diego to Las Vegas on America West. I was sick of flying Southwest so I wanted to try something new. Plus it gave me a great opportunity to fly on some great planes:

757-200
A319
Canadair Regional Jet

My question is, how old are most of America West's 757s?

Mark
 
burnsie28
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RE: American West 757 Age

Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:22 pm

Fairly old, they are all ex-NW birds that were sold to HP as a result of NW getting them from Republic since NW didnt want the RR engines.
 
kim777fan
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RE: American West 757 Age

Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:35 pm

Now THAT is OLD if North-freakin'-West is getting rid of them!!!!  Big grin
 
radelow
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RE: American West 757 Age

Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:39 pm

Eek! Just kidding. Cool. It'll be fun to fly on a old 757. Man those things haul butt. Never been on an A319 or RegionalJet. Did fly on the 320's and such though so it should be pretty close.

How old are the 319's?
 
kim777fan
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RE: American West 757 Age

Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:50 pm

"It'll be fun to fly on a old 757. Man those things haul butt."

Oh, no kidding. I go to LAX 2-3 times a year and have been on both the A320 and B757 (both the -200 and -300) and greatly prefer the 757. They climb like nobody's business compared to the Airbus model and we we're always ahead of schedule and doing the advertised 540 mph most of the time.

Besides the performance, I just love their long, slender lines. Much better for photography IMHO. The A319 especially looks very stubby by comparison.
 
AirframeAS
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RE: American West 757 Age

Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:02 pm

How old are the 319's?

HP 19's are pretty new...they got them brand new.
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dutchjet
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RE: American West 757 Age

Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:31 pm

The America West 757s are among the oldest airplanes operated by the airline....some are ex-Republic (NW) - NW disposed of the 757s ordered by Republic since they were RR powered while NW's 757s are PW powered, there are a couple of ex-Eastern 757s and a handful of 757s were built for America West and delivered from the factory - the average age of America's West's 757s fleet is about 15 years old, I would guess. There were many rumors flying around that America West was thinking about expanding its 757 fleet and/or replacing the 757 fleet with newer second-hand aircraft, but there is nothing definite and HP did extend its leases on its current 757s for another few years, 4 years I think.

America West's A320s were purchased in several groups, beginning with the ex-Pan AM (never delivered), ex-Braniff 2 (about 6 delivered) examples from the very early 1990s to brand new aircraft. The A319 fleet is also rather new, with most examples not more than a few years old. America West operates the 737 as well, some 737-300s (mix of new build and other aircraft) and a few 737-200s that should be retired shortly (they have stayed in the fleet far longer than expected.)
 
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RE: American West 757 Age

Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:12 pm

One Life, Live it.
 
squirrel83
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RE: American West 757 Age

Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:31 pm

Its amazing the age but they do have the Majic Carpet system in Bin 2 hehe ~
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AirframeAS
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RE: American West 757 Age

Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:35 am

Rather old i would say ...

The 20's are old and some are second hand, but the 19's are not. The 19's are pretty much new, not more than 2-3 years old actually.
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HAL
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RE: American West 757 Age

Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:18 am

I know this is about the 1,588,419th time someone has mentioned it on this board, but in regards to the title of this string, the airline is America West, not American West. Thanks!

HAL
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ramerinianair
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RE: American West 757 Age

Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:01 pm

I have the exact numbers so here they are:
N901AW B757-2S7 12/19/85 Ex. RC
N902AW B757-2S7 12/06/85 Ex. RC
N903AW B757-2S7 12/30/85 Ex. RC
N904AW B757-2S7 05/19/86 Ex. RC
N905AW B757-2S7 05/19/86 Ex. RC
N906AW B757-2S7 05/28/86 Ex. RC
N907AW B757-225 12/10/87 Ex. EA then XA-TCD
N908AW B757-2G7 08/25/89
N909AW B757-2G7 11/07/89
N910AW B757-2G7 11/29/89
N911AW B757-225 10/29/84 Ex. N517EA
N914AW B757-225 10/30/84 Ex. N518EA
N915AW B757-225 11/21/84 Ex. N519EA then TC-GUL then N747BJ
All have the RB211-535E4 Engines. Ex. RC means from Republic and the EA registrations are from Eastern. The three that have no comments may have been delivered to AW from Boeing but I will check on that!
Hope it can help,
SR
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ramerinianair
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RE: American West 757 Age

Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:05 pm

Yes, the middle A/C that have no remarks next to them were ordered by AW in 1987 and delivered in 1989.
SR
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tommy767
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RE: American West 757 Age

Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:58 pm

They're pretty old. Some from Eastern, some from republic, and some delivered factory new. However a 757 is a 757 no matter how you put it  Smile
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CactusA319
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RE: American West 757 Age

Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:24 pm


The first A319's were delivered to HP in mid to late 1998, so yes they are fairly new planes. The 75's are probably among the oldest you'll find flying in the US and they look their age on the inside-at least last time I flew on one. Not sure if they've refurbished the cabins on those planes since then. Regardless of that, they're still awesome planes to fly on.

Enjoy your flights on America West.

 
ourboeing
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RE: American West 757 Age

Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:46 pm

I have flown on all of the HP 757s and they are nice (especially the special paint schemes ones Smile. In some of the older ones, you would hear some rattling of overhead luggage compartments at take off and thats about it. I used to live in PHX and now live in Baltimore and everytime I see an HP 757 take off from BWI, it just takes my breath away. 757 is my all time favorite aircraft even though I have flown in almost all of the commercial aircraft in existence today (except the Soviet birds).
You are definitely going to have a great experience flying on an HP RR powered 757. Keep us updated.

Regards,
OURBOEING
 
m404
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RE: American West 757 Age

Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:06 am

How Old is Old?

I've seen so many comments on here about how some acft are "so" old. The 757s mentioned here are 1984 in the oldest example. 20 years. Apparently not too many consider the manufacturers expected age/cycles acft are built for. How long do you think an airframe flies before it's paid for? Someone will fly these as long as mechanically feasible just to get their investment out of them and the technology makes them viable.

I'd like to see a poll on just how old the average passenger thinks an aircraft should be before it's relegated to Coors then compare that to expected airframe life and the earnings ratio of the airline industry. Might be a real reality check.

Maybe a new thread is called for. What 'ya think?
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flynavy
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RE: American West 757 Age

Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:50 pm

I'm 20 years-old, but I don't consider myself OLD.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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IslandHopperCO
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RE: American West 757 Age

Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:16 pm

AW has returned some of its 757s as the leases expired. I know at least one stored at Mohave and sold to Orient Thai (the Tower Air of Thailand) for their idiotically named One-Two-Go subsidiary.

I remember something about them wanting to get some additional newer 757 too...

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