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Flying Business Class

Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:07 pm

I've just had a thought. Is it correct to say that the benefit of paying for business class is actually to get out of coach, rather than to get into business?

Take BA and VS (the Suite at least), they both (generally) offer great products - fully flat, better food, a toothbrush and ear plugs, good service (depends on your taste which you prefer) but, actually, the only real advantage is that you are not squashed, like you are behind. See, the extra add-ons are all better and cheaper to obtain on the ground (the VS bar is, after all, just a little bar) so you're not really choosing to pay for that part of the service.

What do you think?

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RE: Flying Business Class

Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:13 pm

that's a philosophical question!

I am not sure I agree, though: if you just wanted to 'get out of' being squashed in Y, you can pay a (relatively) modest sum to upgrade to World Traveller Plus (BA) or Premium Economy (VS). In these classes, you don't get any of the inefficient extras, but you get more space. Essentially, in WTP or PE, you get the same food, entertainment and amenities (with a couple of minor exceptions), but simply get a bigger seat. It is not a fully flat bed or anything, but you get an extra 7" of pitch and a wider seat.

So if your aim is to simply not be squashed, then go WTP or PE. Club or Upper is a different game - a much bigger seat/bed and wildly better set of amenities and service.

Does that make sense?
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RE: Flying Business Class

Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:17 pm

I would say that you pay to get out of coach, mainly for more privacy and a bigger seat.
I personally don't care about the food or the service or getting somewhere in style. It's purely about arriving more relaxed.
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RE: Flying Business Class

Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:30 pm

I've always thought that if the airlines offered business class seats with absolutely no service, there would still be a lot of takers.

I fly DL BizE across the pond all the time and particularly on the flight over just get on board and fall asleep. I don't use the IFE, I don't get the meals, I just want to be left alone.
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RE: Flying Business Class

Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:01 pm

A bigger seat and more legroom are the only things I would pay to upgrade to Biz for. WTP doesn't cut it for me, especially the high premium asked for the small offerings given. Food and IFE aren't usually *that* much better - I'm just as happy with the rubber chicken as I am with the tasteless smoked salmon and caviar.

Fully flat would be an added bonus, something which I might pay upto, say, 10% more if airline A had it and airline B didn't.

However, I can't justify spending 2.5-4 times the Y price just for a better seat! Especially short trips of 4 hours or less.

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RE: Flying Business Class

Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:31 pm

One of the other big advantages of business is the dedicated check-in. The line is much shorter. In some airports, you also have a dedicated line to go through security.
As a result, since you will go through all the process faster, you can arrive later at the airport.
On long flights, I really appreciate a better dinner. (On short flts, I don't care that much).
And in some airports, the airline's lounge gives you sometimes free internet access or hot meals, and comfortable seats.
On my last flt to the States, I had to transit through DTW, and I really enjoyed the lounge, as I had to wait 4 hours before my transatlantic flt.
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RE: Flying Business Class

Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:20 pm

I'd disagree. I think business class is more than just getting out of coach. There is a big step up in amenities, perks, privelleges and service between coach and business. Although you get a bigger seat and more room, the service in business class is more personalised and the meals as well are more elaborate. Other perks are priority luggage, lounge access, priority boarding/deboarding and such. I say that is more than just getting out of being "squashed".
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RE: Flying Business Class

Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:32 pm

Re: One of the other big advantages of business is the dedicated check-in.

Thankfully, with the introduction of self-service and web checkin, queueing for pax in any class is now a moot point, in a lot of airports (if only US carriers would allow SSCI for international travel - what is their problem ?).
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