Daedalus
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Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:37 am

I just attended a ground handling class for Spirit Airlines' new A319 and A321. The first A321 is scheduled to arrive in TPA from DTW on Sept.21. This will be a trial run for the FAA. There is no set time of arrival as of yet. Just thought I'd pass this info. to some of you spotters and photographers who would be interested in seeing NK's newest beast.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:47 am

Damn..that was fast..can you give me a heads up when to expect in FLL?  Wink/being sarcastic


thanks



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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:51 am

Before the recent purchase did Spirit only operate MD's?
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:23 am

Eksath,
After leaving TPA, she'll be heading your way and then terminate in SJU. I'll post the times as soon as they're scheduled.

Unitedkatw,
Yes, NK only operates MD80s and very poorly conditioned ones.

 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:30 am

Unitedkatw,

They operated MD-80s along with DC-9s. The DC-9s were retired about 2001 IIRC.

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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:38 am

Aa757first-Is there a difference between the MD-80 and the DC-9, other than various lengthening/shrinking of the plane, and the fact that the MD-80 started production after the McDonnell-Douglas merger and the DC-9 before it?
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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:46 am

How close is NK to start operating to Central America?
nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
Daedalus
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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:28 pm

During our Airbus training class, the trainer had mentioned that Spirit was actively pursuing flights to Central and South America as well as the Caribbean as soon as the Airbuses came online. These flights would originate from FLL and maybe a few from TPA depending if WN is willing to share a few gates. A minor correction on the retirement of the NK DC-9. They retired the 9s on March 2003. I had the displeasure of ramping the last one to fly out of TPA.
 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:37 pm

SHUPirate1,

I'm not exactly sure. I think the engines are different. I wasn't trying to come across as a jerk when I said that, if that is what you're getting at, I was simply trying to give a bit more info.

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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:42 pm

Is NK getting rid of their 80's or are they gonna mix them in with the airbus? If they get rid of the MD-80 I'll be sad to see it go in those colors. They have a great paint scheme.

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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:29 am

The DC-9 and the MD80 both run the Pratt and Whitney JT-8 series

The Spirit MD80s are not bad condition

The Continental ones are worse

The Delta and American are the same or better

 
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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:06 am

They may be the same series, but they're wildly different engines.

The MD80 features JT8D-200 series, the -9 does not.

They are different planes in many regards.

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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:27 am

Why was "ramping" the last Spirit DC-9 out of TPA a "displeasure?"
 
Daedalus
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RE: Spirit Airlines Airbuses

Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:34 pm



Why was it a displeasure, you ask, SMcC??

NK's load planning wanted us to load the DC9 in a 60/40 split. Which means 60% of bags, mail, and freight were to be put in the rear and 40% up front. At times during a quick turn-around you did not have time to go over every bag and ensure an accurate split. Also, mail and gate checked items were to be stowed the same way. Ever try cutting a live animal in 60/40?? It was tedious plus the location of the baggage bin door was directly under engine #2 and these engines leaked oil like Niagara falls. How would you like as a passenger to receive your luggage with a lovely film of turbo oil?, not to mention as a ramper, you also received free scalp moisturizer compliments of #2. Don't get me wrong, they were nice looking planes and, of course, part of aviation history but they need to be just there....history.


TWAMD-80: NK is going to retire an MD every time they receive a Airbus which will be roughly once a month starting early next year. I hope they start with aircraft 801NK. That plane needs to be put out of our misery.

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