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DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:41 pm

Most MD80 operators have 2-3 economy layouts. Why did DL put the 3 seat rows on the left...
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:45 pm

Dunno why, but it makes for a good question, Why?
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:56 pm

Isn't it the other way around? I thought that it was 2 on the left (if you are standing in First Class looking to the back) and 3 on the right (it's the opposite on the MD-90)...it is a good question...I've often wondered this myself as well...not that I'm complaining, I'll take the two side anytime of day (that's why I love the MD-80 so much)

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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:06 pm

If I said they did it simply to give the peoples of airliners.net something to talk about would anyone believe me?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:06 pm

Delta wanted a larger rear galley.

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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:42 pm

WidgetBoi,
That is actually the best answer to this I have heard , and I bet it correct. I will tell you that if you ask FA's what's the worst part of the MD80's it will be the back galley, I agree 100%.
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:00 pm

Unless my memory fails me entirely, also Swissair had chosen the 3-2 version for their fleet. The reason behind it was, as WidgetBoi has already stated, to be able to install a larger galley in the aft section.

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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:36 am

Although I am sure WidgetBoi is correct, I think I have to agree with CanadianNorth on this one!  Nuts
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:06 am

Not only does this configuration provide for a larger aft galley, but it makes catering easier as well. With the galley on the opposite side, the catering truck must either compete with the baggage handlers on the right side of the aircraft or else cross the aisle of the aircraft by using the left side door.
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:55 am

I had wondered about this as well, as the one and only time I flew on a DL MD-88, I was curious why the seat setup was backwards than what the typical MDD layout is.
 
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:06 am

Same with IB: 2-3 on the MD88 and 3-2 on the MD87.
 
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:18 am

My last flight on the DC9/MD80 series was on DL...............and as it turned out what I thought was going to be an aisle seat was the dreaded middle seat, but it was a 20 minute flight so no biggie.
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:11 pm

Alaska Airlines also has the three on the left and the two on the right in their MD-80s when facing forward.

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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:22 pm

Unless my memory fails me entirely, also Swissair had chosen the 3-2 version for their fleet. The reason behind it was, as WidgetBoi has already stated, to be able to install a larger galley in the aft section.

i can't speak for all of SR's MD-80s, but I used to fly ZRH-LCA on Swissair all the time in the early 90's and the layout was always 2-3.
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:07 pm

the AZ M80s I just flew on were both 2 on left 3 on right, I take it that is the norm. Still I enjoyed going up the back stairs between engine.!
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:00 pm

AA M82s have TWO rear galleries

AA M83s (ex-TW) have only ONE rear gallery

just my quick observation, thanks

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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:47 am

I am relieved, there is nothing wrong with my memory. Finally it occured to me that there simply had to be a pic on file, showing the Swissair cabin configuration. And, there is, clearly showing their 3-2 seating.


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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:22 am

All MD-80s come with a port service door for access for catering trucks, so as not to interfere with baggage handling. But, because most airlines have used the 2-3 configuration, two narrow galleys have to be installed, especially if planes have on-board meal service, or the carrier likes to double cater a flight for fast turnarounds.

Having sat in the last row of an AA MD-80, there is some moving between the galleys, which appeared to be a major annoyance for the F/As.

For DL, putting the seats in a 3-2 configuration means having a one wider galley, about the same width as the rear galley on a 727-200s. Besides having a galley that has a similar layout to other aircraft types, it also allows DL to put a few extra seats in the cabin.
 
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RE: DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3

Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:58 am

now you've got me thinking back to 10 years ago.

they might have had both.

i remember going to geneva for my sister's wedding and i remember that my parents and I were all sitting on the left hand side, so that must have been 3.

but i clearly remember going to larnaca and sitting by myself on the left with only one chair next to me...unfilled. i was eating Swissair's veal and was trying to eat it professionally (as a 10 year old I was amused by such things).
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