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The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:49 am

How many Boeings are there on earth? And how many Airbuses?

I am sure there are more Boeings BY FAR. Right? I mean the ones that are already built.
 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbu

Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:21 am

Yes you are correct, Boeing has (I think) twice as many aircraft built after 1980 flying than Airbus does. If you'll give me a moment, I'll get some exact figures
 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbu

Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:49 am

The following figures included all deliveries from January 1, 1980 through today, and do not take into account crashes, write-offs, stored aircraft, or scrapped aircraft

Boeing deliveries-

707 Family- 74
717 Family- 132
727 Family- 270
737-200 Family- 521
737-300/400/500 Family- 1988
737NG Family- 1540
747 Family- 933
757 Family- 1045
767 Family- 920
777 Family- 485
7E7 Family- 0

Total- 7908

Airbus deliveries-

A300/A310 Family- 786
A320 Family- 2241
A330/A340 Family- 590
A380 Family- 0

Total- 3617
 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:59 am

You're asking who's made more airliners (not total aircraft, I assume)? Or who's made more airliners that still exist?
 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbu

Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:04 am

You're asking who's made more airliners (not total aircraft, I assume)? Or who's made more airliners that still exist?

While some of the aircraft I listed have definitly been retired or crashed, the fact remains that all are less than 25 years old, so it stands a good chance most are still in existance. In any event, I seriously doubt 3,000 Boeing's built in the last 2 decades have already been retired.
 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:07 am

The Flight International/AvSoft World Airliner Census 2004 was published this week. It yields the following result for total number of western built jet and turboprops operated by airlines;

Manufacturer / Fleet / Share

1 Boeing 10554 / 48.8% (Includes 2189 McDonnell Douglas aircraft)
2 Airbus 3320 / 15.4%
3 Bombardier 2069 / 9.6%
4 Embraer 1143 / 5.3%
5 BAE Systems 746 / 3.5%
6 Fokker 744 / 3.4%
7 ATR 578 / 2.7%
8 Raytheon 445 / 2.1%
9= Fairchild 417 / 1.9%
9= Saab 417 / 1.9%
Others 1178
Total 21611

A few other interesting points;
12.8% of the world's jet fleet is currently idle - 2190 aircraft out of 18140

Of the 2 "majors" Airbus has an order backlog of 1100 aircraft, Boeing 946

The in-service 757 fleet has peaked at over 1000 (actually 1004) for the first and last time

The fastest growing fleets against 2003 figures are B737NG (+15.4% / 1444 total) and the A320 (+12.7% / 2163 total) and the fastest declining of the most popular types is the 727 (-8.8% / 756 total)

There are several other bits and pieces but most of the 26 page report is taken up with a listing of operators' fleet size for each aircraft model.

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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:11 am

I assume you mean number of boeing jetliners that are actually still around? If not, we've got all the propliners and thousands of bombers to take into account. Boeing is a much older company than Airbus.
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:20 am

To help you figure out this question yourself, why don't you think of this. Who has been manufacturing airliners longer, and who has had a broader range of products longer. If you still can't tell, may the ever merciful god be with you.
 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:04 pm

Boeing has been around since the 30´s and Airbus early 70´s!!!

Guess those numbers speak for themselfs  Insane

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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:49 pm

In service fleet is most relevant to the manufacturer as this generates revenue in parts and support. Boeing's fleet seems to be holding, possibly reducing as aircraft are broken up, while Airbus seems to gain around 20 aircraft per month. I can't see this changing for a few years, but it will be a long time before there is a 50/50 on the inservice numbers.

Just my thoughts.

 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:18 pm

727 Family- 270
737-200 Family- 521



Dfwrevolution, where do you get your stats from?  Nuts

It is more like

727 family - 1831
737-200 family -1144.


Remember, these two are amongst THE most successful airliners ever built!

and again


747 Family- 933
757 Family- 1045


are you expecting me to believe that there have been more 757 deliveries than 747 ones????????


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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbu

Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:30 pm

DIJKKIJK, I believe DFWrevolution said that his stats are deliveries AFTER 1980 which means they do not account for deliveries before 1980.
 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:40 pm

"747 Family- 933
757 Family- 1045


are you expecting me to believe that there have been more 757 deliveries than 747 ones????????
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Considering that each of UA, DL and AA have over 100 757s each and CO, NW have a load, as well as other airlines around the world, I think it would be fair to say that  Big grin
Although didnt SQ get the 1000th 747 built?
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:46 am

"are you expecting me to believe that there have been more 757 deliveries than 747 ones????????"

Keep in mind that the B757 was/is an incredibly versatile aircraft for medium and short-haul service operated by a substantial number of scheduled AND charter operators worldwide.

The 747 by comparison at least was/is more of a "niche" aircraft mainly flown by the biggest airlines for International long-haul missions. Of the major US carriers, AA, UA, US, NW, CO, and even HP, only NW has a 747 fleet, while all of them have a significant number of 757's.

The 747 is probably by far the most famous aircraft ever built, but that doesn't necessarily equate to most common.
 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:48 am

Oooops!! UA also operates several 747's. Don't everybody jump down my throat all at once!!!  Embarrassment
 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbu

Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:24 am

747 deliveries began in 1969 with total deliveries of all versions through 7/31/04 of 1347 aircraft. 757 deliveries began in 1982 with total deliveries of all versions through 7/31/04 of 1045 aircraft. The delivery totals compiled in post #5 begin in 1980.
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbu

Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:37 am

Dfwrevolution, where do you get your stats from? Remember, these two are amongst THE most successful airliners ever built!

From Boeing of course. I indicated that the stats I listed were deliveries after January 1, 1980. Since most of the sales for these models occured in the 1960s and 1970s, they are obviously not included.

I didn't think it would be fair to compare Airbus and Boeing by starting with 707 deliveries in the late 50s, as many of these aircraft are gone and Airbus didn't exist at the time. Since Airbus really began to pick-up steam in the 1980s, and most of Boeing's "modern" line were built in the 80s-90s, I chose this date range as a somewhat more equal comparison.

are you expecting me to believe that there have been more 757 deliveries than 747 ones????????

You could confirm for yourself if you would like. This is a really nifty tool that everyone should be aware of-

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/userdefinedselection.cfm

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

Boeing has been around since the 30´s and Airbus early 70´s!!! Guess those numbers speak for themselfs

Which is exactly why I chose the date range that I did  Big grin
 
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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:46 am

Boeing has been around since the 30´s and Airbus early 70´s!!!

What's your point? Boeing has been around much longer, but they haven't been making large commerical airliners much longer than Airbus at all.




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RE: The Number Of Boeing(s) VS The Number Of Airbuses

Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:51 am

SEVERAL????? UA flies 30 B 747-400s currently. Also they own 42 of them (used to be 44 but they sold two.)