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How Cramped Are MD-80,717 727,737,757,A320,dc-9

Sat Feb 26, 2000 1:51 pm

I've flown the 747, 767, 777, A330 A340,and the L-1011 on routes all over the world with different airlines. But i've never flown on a narrow body aircraft. I hear that the seats on the aircrafts i've listed are very uncomfortable. Tell me your experience on narrow body aircraft. Thank you.
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RE: How Cramped Are MD-80,717 727,737,757,A320anddc-9

Sat Feb 26, 2000 1:58 pm

Theyre nto all that bad.... they are basically the same seat that you get on a long haul plane.....

But listen to this:

On my BA 744 flight from HK to LHR, I had the new World Traveller seats which were quite comfy but had like NOOOO legroom at all.

Then popped onto a 757 from LHR to geneva and I had like 2" mroe legroom and could actually move. The seats were also about the same... not AS comfy but for such a short fligth were great.

The 757 is slightly more spacious inside than the 737 I find. BUt the 727 is also pretty good.

My favourite of course is the A321 and A320.

Man those babies are great, quiet and on all the ones ive been on (SAA, Swissair and Ansett).... i have had ample room - not as much as say an SAA or Singapore Airlines 744, but still much better than a 737 or BA"s HORRIBLE 747-400's! (esp for a tall person like me!)
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RE: How Cramped Are MD-80,717 727,737,757,A320anddc-9

Sat Feb 26, 2000 2:23 pm

I agree; I've flown on British Airways' 747-400 and 747-200 I've never had a comfy seat on the three times I've flown with them. That's why I fly Virgin. Richard Branson has done a good job with his airline. How dare does BA calls themselves "Worlds Favourite" when they don't have tv's in economy, no newspapers, magazines, video games, or in one case no f/a that speaks english. I flew with BA last year from JFK-IGA with a stop in LHR. Out of the 4 different planes I had only one of them was a new 747-400 the rest was either a 747-200 the seats were faded and the metalic panels were not bolted down. Worst Airline I've ever flown. On top of that; A passenger actually hit me in the back as I was walking down the aisle from the bathroom back to my seat and BA flight attendents didn't do anything after I told them about what happened. I finally had it with BA. Virgin is the airline to fly on.

RE: How Cramped Are MD-80,717 727,737,757,A320anddc-9

Sat Feb 26, 2000 2:28 pm

It is a question of airline! for example SAS MD80s seat 130 pax, which give even coach class a fair piece of legroom but Alitalia MD80s seat 155pax, 25 more pax ( 5 more rows!!! in the same cabin...)))

RE: How Cramped Are MD-80,717 727,737,757,A320anddc-9

Sat Feb 26, 2000 4:01 pm

Holy cow!! You're not sh@#$%&g us, are you? I mean, you've flown ONLY widebodies?!? Of course, narrowbodies are the same as single-aisle a/c. I've flown on DC-10s, 747-100, -200s and -400s, L1011s, and an A300 as widebodies. The widebodies' seats weren't too bad in my book, but the 747100/200 - they're a bit uncomfortable. The narrowbodies I've flown on are the: 737-200, 737-300, 737-400, 727-200, A319, A320, DC-9s, BAe 146, Fokker F28 and the CRJ.

The 737-200 is a little cramped, but not too bad - it's the noise that's the problem. But I'm used to them, as I flew on them a lot, usually on CP and WestJet. The 737-300/400 is a bit better. The DC-9, I find just as loud as the 737-200 and the seats just as bad. I LOVE the A319 and the A320. I flew Air Canada on these planes. You should try these seats there! The legroom is the BEST and they are HUGE. I'm talking about economy, not business class! I honestly can't remember the 727 - I was only a kid at the time I flew on those. The CRJ is not too bad, but watch your head (although it's really a bit more roomy than a Dash 8-300) - this is a small RJ! The BAe 146 is a delight to fly on. The legroom is better than a DC-9 or a 732. And they're quieter despite their having four engines! One plane I do NOT recommend flying on is the F28! The legroom and the seat width is TERRIBLE.

FYI - I'm about 5'9" tall and thin with fairly long legs, so you'll get an idea how these planes are for me! Different people come in different sizes and shapes, so they'll have different experiences.
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RE: How Cramped Are MD-80,717 727,737,757,A320anddc-9

Sat Feb 26, 2000 6:03 pm

Out of the narrow-bodies you've listed I've only flown on a 737-200 and A320 on CP recently. And as you may not be very surprised to hear, the comfort level of the A320 is far superior - as the design is about 20 years newer and is far quieter.

I flew from YYZ-YVR and back and had no complaints. Even on a 4 1/2-5 hr flight CP provides enough space to strech out, and the seats are comfortable. I almost forgot I was on a rather small airplane for such a long flight.

I hear from others that DC9/MD80/717 is OK as long as the seat pitch isn't too tight. In those aircraft the seating is usually five abreast instead of six abrest in all others. This is better because only one person per row is stuck in a middle seat.

RE: How Cramped Are MD-80,717 727,737,757,A320anddc-9

Sat Feb 26, 2000 6:32 pm

I have found both the Boeing 727 (in service with Alaska Airlines until 1993 or 1994) and the MD-80 to be fairly comfortable planes, especially with the seats at 33-34 inch pitch.
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RE: How Cramped Are MD-80,717 727,737,757,A320anddc-9

Sat Feb 26, 2000 7:57 pm

I agree with CSA (by the way: are you Czek? I loved Prague!!!):

It depends on each company. I've flown mostly BCN-ATH, on board narrows and I am 1m92 tall. I have had problems on board OA's 732s and 734s, and on IB's DC9s and 727s. But I had the same problems on DL's L15, a wide (8 hours BCN-ATL!!!). On the opposite hand, I did have plenty of room on DL's 727 (ATL-ABQ). So, 727's configurations for IB and DL are quite different...
On the other hand, for example, I had no problem at all on a BAe 146 of KM (Air Malta), and it is quite silent despite, not of the fact of having 4 engines, but of having them IN FRONT OF THE WINDOWS. Neither on LH's 320s, 321s or 734s. Back to OA's A/Cs, I had problems on the wide 300 (A-300-B4), but not on the 600 (A-300-600R).
But I do not agree with CSA's opinion on AZ's planes. I've flown Alitalia's D80 (McDonnell Douglas DC-9 Super 80), 320 and 321: ALL of them did have hughe 1st class seats 2+2 configuration per row until row 14, althoguh only the 3 or 4 first ones were actually Business. My flights were BCN-LIN-ATH (two planes) and ATH-FCO-BCN (two more). Off course, I seated narrow places only on board the first flight...

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