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America West Dropping MTY

Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:35 pm

Due to low loads, America West (Mesa)) will drop MTY-Phoenix in October, less than a year after it started. I think it's a shame since it's the only carrier with a nonstop to Arizona. There are many phoenix based companies in MTY.
 
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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:50 pm

Yes, it is a pity. We thought they were doing well. This was discussed before on:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1614610

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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:03 pm

It was nice having them here in MTY but I never really thought that the route would work because there really isn't a strong demand for the route and don't forget the strong competition from DL, AA and CO that are very well established here. AM Dropped MTY-JFK not too long ago so there's less international routes out of MTY now which is very sad. I hope that 6A expands more internationally from MTY and I also still like to believe that MTY eventually will get a direct flight to Europe.


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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:31 pm

MTYFREAK:

<< AM Dropped MTY-JFK not too long ago >>
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1646953

<< I hope that 6A expands more internationally from MTY... >>
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1594084

<< ...and I also still like to believe that MTY eventually will get a direct flight to Europe. >>
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1619640

and

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1569711

<< BTW, The improvements at MTY passenger terminal are awesome!! >>

Yes, they are!!!... I was this week in MTY, and was genuinely impressed by the new/remodeled facilities: the flows of pax into the gate areas and out of the flights, including new lounges and a ton of nice stores... (I wonder if that huge Hermes store will sell enough ties to pay the astronomical rents OMA charges for just about everything...) It was about time MTY had decent airport facilities up to date and demand!! Big thumbs up

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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:34 pm

Ohhhh.. Monterey MEXICO!!  Wow!

For a second I was all riled up thinking it was Monterey CALIFORNIA (MRY) on the chopping block! That would have ticked me off because that would have left American Eagle as the only carrier in there, and they would have charged a king's ransom as a result.
 
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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:59 pm

So I wonder what the chances are of HP starting up service to VER? What kind of US bound traffic would that area provide?



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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:43 pm

Interesting question... I read a few days ago in a newspaper (Reforma), that the Mexican ministry of the interior was asking to modify the contract entered with MX to provide repatriation carriage for immigrants being deported from the USA by the CBP (a.k.a. "La Migra") - they were requesting one of two (daily?) LAX-GDL flights to be taken to VER instead of GDL...

So there you may have a first answer to your question: a lot of ethnic and migrant workers pax composition to begin with.

On the other hand, Veracruz is a busy sea port with a bustling industrial area around it. Whereas I'm sure the area produces a lot of US-bound air carriage business, the same is currently dominated by MX and AM, who provide connections to the major USA gateways ex-MEX, after a short (35 minutes) VER-MEX flight. CO also serves VER with 1x/day RJ service. to IAH.

And what kind of VER-bound traffic can the USA provide?

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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:25 am

VER will be getting American Eagle by the end of the year to DFW.
 
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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:02 am

For a second I was all riled up thinking it was Monterey CALIFORNIA (MRY) on the chopping block! That would have ticked me off because that would have left American Eagle as the only carrier in there

Only Eagle?? What about United Express at MRY?
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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:39 am

Byrdluvs747, I doubt HP will launch VER as a destination. If it can't make MTY (Mexico's second or third city in terms of economic output) work, there's no way it can make VER work. AA's American Eagle link from VER to DFW and AM and MX connections in MEX should take care of traffic between VER and the United States.
Next flights: MEX-LAX AM 738, LAX-PVG DL 77L, SHA-PEK CA 789, PEK-PVG CA A332, PVG-ORD MU 77W, ORD-MEX AM 738
 
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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:59 am

Outside of a few LAX/SAN-Mexico routes it seems that HP is done with Mexico. They should concentrate on central america and possibly south america.
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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:14 am

Oh yeah.. I forgot that United Express seemingly flies to every little outpost in California including Visalia and Santa Maria. They DO also have service to MRY, but I would still HATE to lose HP rj service there being the east-to-west traveler that I am. Just a hair surprised the we don't see Horizon service from Seattle as well Sky West from SLC considering how big of a tourist destination this is.
 
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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:16 am

Kim777fan

We're talking about MTY not MRY.
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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:43 am

Er...This is about MTY. Anybody who wants to talk about MRY, just start another thread. I really don´t give a flying dingo what happens in MRY.
 
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RE: America West Dropping MTY

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:59 am


Adriaticus:

Thanx for the links because sometimes I'm so busy that I can't check the forums in weeks!

That doesn't mean that you're going to my respected user list....

just kidding,



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