sdkualeb
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What Going On At EWR

Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:34 pm

The last few days EWR has almost come to a complete stop with delays for over 2-3 hrs both inbound and out bound. Is there something more then WX ? Is it something with the RNC in NYC ? Its all flts and all airlines. Can someone shed a little light. Also is it just EWR or is JFK,LGA having the some problem?
 
CALMSP
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RE: What Going On At EWR

Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:41 pm

groundstops and delays from IAD to BOS. We are runing some very late flights in EWR, and cancelling many express flights
 
swadispatcher
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RE: What Going On At EWR

Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:22 pm

They also had (may still have) one of the 4/22's closed for construction.. That doesn't help the arrival rate..
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A340Spotter
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RE: What Going On At EWR

Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:14 pm

Weather impacting routes in/out of the NY area was the main cause of delays, specifically today. When weather builds up between NY and Cleveland centers, it makes for troublesome times as departure routes get cut off as flights aren't able to deviate due to the amount of traffic operating in the northeast.

Jeffrey
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CALMSP
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RE: What Going On At EWR

Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:15 pm

according to Headquarters they were saying that they were only allowing for a total of 34 arrivals per hour
 
A340Spotter
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RE: What Going On At EWR

Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:23 pm

Went down to a 30 arrival rate around 7:30pm eastern...

Jeffrey
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AMS
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RE: What Going On At EWR

Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:00 pm

I just flew yesterday from EWR to AMS, and yes there were many delays due to thunderstorms in the Area. Also I believe that there are Thunderstorms coming up in the next days. Off course commuter aircraft are more sensitive to this.

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SafetyDude
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RE: What Going On At EWR

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:09 am

The delay was caused to weather and the RNC.

-Will
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coa764
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RE: What Going On At EWR

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:35 am

The delay was caused to weather and the RNC.

The delays in EWR the last few days have been weather driven and have had nothing to do with the RNC.

Yesterday was a combination TS Gaston and the weather ahead of the approaching frontal system. Delays started when the loss of routes south through Washington Centers airspace. EWR/LGA/JFK have three different arrival flows into the NY area and the EWR/LGA streams were combined due to weather. That same weather also blocked departures via J75. As the morning progressed the weather developing along the front started to shut off the west departure routes out of the NY area due to the route closures and eastbound traffic deviating into the departure routes. In an attempt to limit the number of arrivals and limit the volume of traffic Ground Delay Programs were put into place for EWR/JFK/LGA/PHL/IAD. Since the issue was an en route and not terminal one it didn't work. Departure delays out of EWR started to increase past 120 minutes. So Ground stops were used to do just that, stop the traffic into the NY metros and give them a chance to flush the departures. Only problem is that when you stop everything the demand per hour increases behind the stop and so when the Ground Delay Program is revised the average delay goes up and the program end time is extended out. Basically it make a real mess of things and once the delays like this are put into the system recovery is very limited to none until the initiatives expire
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hz747300
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RE: What Going On At EWR

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:54 am

I thought that the delays were because the Republicans did not want all that airplane noise drowning out their speakers.
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