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DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:53 pm

The DOT has awarded it's annual small community air service grants. $19,853,546 has been awarded. 108 communities applied, and 40 communities in 37 states were granted grants as follows:

Albany, GA - $500,000
-US Airways service to Charlotte

Alpena, Michigan - $583,406
-Restoring 4 daily Northwest flights to Detroit
-Uncoupling at least one of those daily flights

Beckley/Lewisburg, West Virgina - $300,000
-Joint cordination with new airlines

Bloomington, Illinois - $800,000
-Westbound low fare service

Butte, Montana - $360,000
-Marketing program

Champaign/Urbana, Illinois - $200,000
-to continue funding existing Delta service to CVG

Charlottesville, Virginia - $270,000
-Upgrade service to Charlotte on US Airways from 4 daily props to 3 daily RJs

Chattanooga, Tenn. - $750,000
-Delta service to Dallas

Columbus, Mississippi - $260,000
-Marketing study

Del Rio, Texas - $318,750
-Continental Connection (Skywest) service to Houston

Dubois, Penn. - $400,000
-Lower fares
-Revenue guarantees on existing service

Eau Claire, Wisconsin - $500,000
-Midwest and/or Amtrak service to Milwaukee

Elko, Nevada - $222,000
-Scenic Airlines service to Las Vegas

Evansville/South Bend, Indiana - $1,000,000
-???

Farmington, New Mexico - $650,000
-Revenue guarantees for existing service

Huntsville, Alabama - $479,850
-to fund their website

Kalamazoo, Michigan - $500,000
-Additional Delta service to Atlanta

Latrobe, Penn. - $650,000
-Revenue guarantee of existing service

Lafayette, Louisiana - $240,000
-Marketing money

Lebanon, New Hampshire - $500,000
-Revenue guarantees for existing service

Lincoln, Nebraska - $1,200,000
-???

Logan, Utah - $530,000
-Service to Denver

Marquette, Michigan - $700,000
-Restore Northwest service to Minneapolis
-RJ service to Detroit an Milwaukee
-Eliminate stops on American Eagle's three daily MQT-ORD flights (which are via MSN, TVC, and GRB)

McCook/North Platte, Nebraska - $275,000
-Marketing

New Haven, Conn. - $250,000
-continue funding current Delta service to CVG

Pocatello, Idaho - $75,000
-keep Horizon Air service to Seattle

Redding/Arcata, California - $500,000
-twice daily Horizon service to LAX

Richmond, Virginia - $950,000
-Incentives for jetBlue or Southwest

Salem, Oregon - $500,000
-Three daily Horizon flights to Seattle

Santa Rosa, California - $635,000
-3 daily Horizon Air flights to LAX

Sarasota, Florida - $1,500,000
-3 daily airTran flights to Atlanta
-Daily airTran flights to Baltimore

Sioux City, Iowa - $609,800
-lure a lowfare airline
-lower fares on Northwest

Sioux Falls, South Dakota - $350,000
-America West RJ service to Phoenix

Steamboat Springs, Colo. - $500,000
-RJ service to airport "other than Denver"

Sumter, South Carolina - $50,000
-Bus shuttle service to airport in Colombia, S.C.
Waterloo, Iowa - $550,000
-Northwest service to Detroit OR
-More Northwest RJ service to MSP

Tyler, Texas - $90,000
-Service to Austin, Texas

Walla Walla, Washington - $250,000
-Expanded Horizon Air service to Seattle

Wilkes-Barre, Penn. - $625,000
-Northwest service to Detroit
-Expanded Vacation Express scheduled charter service

Youngston, Ohio - $250,000
-Expand scheduled charter service

Some of the losers this year were:
-Gulfport, Miss. proposing expanded Delta service to Dallas; new service to Orlando
-Lansing, Mich. proposing Delta service to Atlanta
-Madison, Wisconsin proposing Frontier service to Denver
-Marathon, Florida proposing Delta service to Orlando
-Redding, California proposing Horizon Air service to LAX
-San Angelo, Texas, asking for funds to retain CO service to IAH
-Somerset, KY propsing American Connection service to Nashville
-Toldeo, OH proposing jetBlue to JFK, mainline ATA to MDW, and expanded service elswhere
-Traverse City, Michigan, proposing year-round Delta service to CVG
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:00 am

So it looks like Modesto has lost out......Again!
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:01 am

>>Bloomington, Illinois - $800,000
-Westbound low fare service<<


Maybe Frontier is coming back???
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:05 am

What, no Safford, AZ service? - big losers again.

The line about Richmond is interesting as I would wonder why a federal government body would be used to offer inducements to an airline. Generally, that is a state and local government function.
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Gran

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:06 am

lincoln's proposal was for rj to dtw and iah...dtw is a go and iah co said would be a go last year if they got the $$$$.
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:09 am

MOD lost out. Damn. I was hoping they'd get the service too. Always next year I guess.

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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:17 am

Great news for Salem, OR but I see Stockton, CA is not on the list of "winners" which surprises me. I though Modesto would have a great chance too
 
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:18 am

Does anyone know what the criteria of granting the awards are?
 
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:23 am

I'm surpised Lincoln, NE doesn't have any flights to STL? Didn't they used to?

I'm generally against govt. subsidies for corporations but in this case, bring 'em on. Gotta keep air service to these small towns as long as there is demand. I hope they don't subsidize only one or a handful of people.

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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:10 am

Some of the losers this year were:
-Gulfport, Miss. proposing expanded Delta service to Dallas; new service to Orlando
-Lansing, Mich. proposing Delta service to Atlanta
-Madison, Wisconsin proposing Frontier service to Denver
-Marathon, Florida proposing Delta service to Orlando
-Redding, California proposing Horizon Air service to LAX
-San Angelo, Texas, asking for funds to retain CO service to IAH
-Somerset, KY propsing American Connection service to Nashville
-Toldeo, OH proposing jetBlue to JFK, mainline ATA to MDW, and expanded service elswhere
-Traverse City, Michigan, proposing year-round Delta service to

What airport(s)? It says Redding/Arcata, California - $500,000
-twice daily Horizon service to LAX

RDD or/and ACV?

Glad to see new service in Waterloo and even RJ service from FSD to PHX!!
Anyone no if Mason City Iowa applied and if they did what they applied for?

Logan, Utah - $530,000
-Service to Denver


Does Logan currently have service?
 
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:26 am

What airport(s)? It says Redding/Arcata, California - $500,000
-twice daily Horizon service to LAX

RDD or/and ACV?


Good observation, I totally missed that. It is possible that they both got a combined grant for the service.


Anyone no if Mason City Iowa applied and if they did what they applied for?

No.


Does Logan currently have service?

IIRC, no, they do not.

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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:05 am

I smell just a little politics here - Sarasota got by far the largest award, and yet already has service and is less than an hour from TPA. I'm not knocking the good folks of Sarasota, I just see a lot more need on some of those western cities vs. a city in the heart of FL, one of the most heavily served areas in the nation.
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:20 am

Since when would Richmond, VA be considered a small community?

Seems a bit odd to take money from "deserving" communities to pander to someone's constituents.

Just how many Virginia politicos were sitting on transportation panel anyway?
 
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:10 am

Damn! I hope its ACV, new service up here would be awesome, maybe a ACV-RDD-LAX-ACV-RDD routing? I believe there is service between ACV and RDD right now on QX. So, I hope thats what the RDD/ACV means. It would be consolation, seeing as MOD lost out.

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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:37 am

Looks like another winner is NW, as quite a few of the communities that received grants will be applying them towards new Northwest service... Sumter, SC is an odd one, but if their grants can really attract DTW service, more power to them.

Of course, the other big winner would be Web developers in HSV, and consultants in Columbus, MS... half a mil to fund a website, or a quarter mil for a simple marketing study?? Wow.


I'm generally against govt. subsidies for corporations but in this case, bring 'em on. Gotta keep air service to these small towns as long as there is demand. I hope they don't subsidize only one or a handful of people.


Although this isn't as bad as the EAS program, if flights out of these small towns were going out full, the subsidies wouldn't be necessary. At least with the SCASD grants, money will be applied to cities that actually stand a chance of sending out full aircraft.


Does anyone know what the criteria of granting the awards are?

Try these:

http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/X-50%20Role_files/smallcommunity.htm

http://www.aviationplanning.com/scasd04.htm



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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:41 am

Sumter, SC is an odd one, but if their grants can really attract DTW service, more power to them.


Sumter's grant is to a run a shuttle bus to Colombia, South Carolina. Nothing for Northwest. I don't think they even have an airport, do they?
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:50 am

Did Johnstown, PA apply?
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:51 am

Sumter's grant is to a run a shuttle bus to Colombia, South Carolina. Nothing for Northwest. I don't think they even have an airport, do they?


This makes a little more sense... I just glanced at the original post and missed "Waterloo, IA" two lines below Sumter, SC, probably because there wasn't a space between the two. My mistake.


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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:54 am


Huntsville, Alabama - $479,850
-to fund their website

Jeez! I run a web development company and could do it for alot less than that. Come to think of it, maybe I'll make a few calls to Huntsville tomorrow!
 
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:14 pm

I've always thought DTW-AVP was coming down the pipe, with CRJ's, good to see that hopefully this funding will make it a go.

What I really don't understand is that a lot of these awards/grants seem to be of the "me-too" variety. Especially the whole RJ vs. Prop issue. Its like "give us money cuz we want jets even though we don't have the passengers to support it" which is an argument that doesn't always fly. Sometimes it does. However, sometimes, once the money runs out, bye-bye jets.
 
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:19 pm

Elmira got it last year, BGM the year before, thought it was our turn (ITH). With Usairways only flying to PHL/LGA soon and a terminal built in 1992 w/ possibly two jetways and tons of counter space I'm very dissapointed. Not surpised tho, most went to "battle ground states" or republican states...not NY for sure!
www.ithacairport.com tell me what you think. Sad to say the least, but at least we have plenty of comapny. Oh well, so much for our service (Comair was very interested in coming in here to CVG if we got the grant). -Matt in KITH
 
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:33 pm

Sioux Falls, South Dakota - $350,000
-America West RJ service to Phoenix

Very Interesting. I heard we were trying to get funding for SD but I thought it was Rapid City.

This ought to be an interesting new route.
 
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:11 pm

Sioux Falls, South Dakota - $350,000
-America West RJ service to Phoenix


That will be a long RJ flight. I wonder if it will be once daily?
 
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:34 pm

Damn! I hope its ACV

Yep it is. ACV and RDD filed a joint application for a $500,000 grant, with $76,000 in local matching. They proposed twice daily Q400 service connecting ACV and RDD to LAX. I can't tell how the flights will be routed. The app expects a startup date of Feb 14, 2005. QX also supplied a letter indicating they were interested in the route, with the usual qualifiers saying subject to various conditions.

Combine ACV/RDD with the STS grant and QX is looking at adding a number of Q400 flights at LAX. I wonder if they'll consider a few other cities out of LAX also.
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:44 pm

Oh, what MAH didn't mentioned is that 6 other cities were given funds that were not used by winners in 2002 and 2003. The funds were reallocated this year to apps filed in 2002 or 2003 by the following cities:

Hot Springs, AR $195,000
Visalia, CA $200,000
Worcester, MA $442,615
Syracuse, NY $480,000
Rutland, VT $240,000
Clarksburg/Morgantown WV $372,286
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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Gran

Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:51 pm

Sad to see San Angelo SJT lose out. I hope somehow the COEX will stay.
partly because I use the flight LOL. Single service to DFW on AE was expensive.
Del Rio could work, as the drive to San Antonio was tedious for many at Laughlin AFB.

Also seems BRownwood, Texas; Ponca City, OK; and ENID, OK could lose. THey were in a 3 way bid to keep Mesa (had to be all or none according to Mesa). THe cities were not happy with Mesa service (according to media reports) but were trying to come up with local money and federal money to keep it going and/or get a new airline.

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RE: DOT Awards 40 Small Community Air Service Grants

Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:45 pm

-San Angelo, Texas, asking for funds to retain CO service to IAH

That stinks I surprised I was under the impression the loads for CO Express were pretty decent, heck on of our three flights is an E135. I can see why they would turn Angelo down with the amount AE flights to DFW everyday. Too bad, this city is beginning to have a little building boom thinks to the finishing of our Loop (306). This spells good news for AE and heck good news for WN up in Midland if COExpress decides to leave SJT once again.

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