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Why Did Boeing Stop The MD's After Merge?

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:39 pm

After or shortly after Boeing merged with McDonnell-Douglas, why did the MD-80's and DC-9's and MD-11's stop in their tracks? I maybe wrong about this so don't crush my head.
 
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RE: Why Did Boeing Stop The MD's After Merge?

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:44 pm

Because Boeing had competing products--and none of the MDD products delivered any return for the investment.

The MD-95 was kept because unions would have objected to the sale if the line was discontinued--effectively delaying the consolidation for up to a year. It had to be kept to keep the peace in Long Beach.
 
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RE: Why Did Boeing Stop The MD's After Merge?

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:45 pm

The MD-80s and DC-9 had stopped production already.

The MD-11 was in production longer than any MD product.

The 717 is a development of the proposed MD-95, so you can say the MD products are still alive. It is also produced at the old MD plant in Long Beach.
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RE: Why Did Boeing Stop The MD's After Merge?

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:48 pm

Well for one they were not stopped immediately after the merger took place. The death was a slow one.

For one the MD-80/90 and MD-11 competed with existing and planned Boeing commercial projects.

Secondly the steam was running out on the MD80/90 and MD11 programs. Products from Airbus and Boeing were being prefered over the older MDD designs. The early weaknesses of the MD90 and MD11 certainly didn't help either.

Third, the merger probably killed many airlines preference for the MDD products with questionable availability and support in the future for the step-children products.
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RE: Why Did Boeing Stop The MD's After Merge?

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:49 pm

Because the last few MD aircraft, for the most part, weren't any good.
Not a scientific analysis mind you, just my own observation from the line.
 
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RE: Why Did Boeing Stop The MD's After Merge?

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:52 pm

At the time of the merger the MD80, MD90, and MD11 families were all in production.
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RE: Why Did Boeing Stop The MD's After Merge?

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:55 pm

Because the last few MD aircraft, for the most part, weren't any good.

The MD-11 did have it's share of problems, but the MD-90 seems to be one sw33t machine.
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RE: Why Did Boeing Stop The MD's After Merge?

Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:17 pm

Well the MD-90 though a good airplane, by most estimates is not a great aircraft. The only benefit to passengers was the 2 +3 seating, and the rear engines. However, I think if you asked pilots who have flown both MD 80+ series and the 737/757 series, you'll find the Boeing is the hands down favorite.

 
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RE: Why Did Boeing Stop The MD's After Merge?

Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:28 am

lluv2pilot, I can disagree with you one with at least one pilot. A DL pilot I talked to was much happier flying the MD-88 instead of the 737, he said because of the handling and the quietness of the plane.

I personally prefer the MD-80s to any Boeing product because of how quiet it is, especially if you sit in front of the wing. On most Boeing jets, when sitting coach you are either right in front of the engines (loud), over the wings (can't see down), or behind the engines (loud). Of course I always sit window seat.

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