trickijedi
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Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:11 pm

SIN-CEB (Cebu Mactan, Philippines) is $1,800S on Silk Air for a RT flight in mid-Jan. Whereas, SQ is under $700S for SIN-MNL also for mid-Jan. Such a huge price difference for destinations so close to each other (MNL and CEB).

Silk Air has always been high on fares. Am I the only one who thinks this?
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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:01 pm

Silk Air and SQ has never been known for their low fares until the emergence of LCCs recently. On routes where there is little competition, prices can rocket sky high! Even for their "low fares", there are so many restrictions I can't even begin to count.

Think abt this, on routes to Manila and Cebu, the only operators are Philippine Airlines and SIA (well, until recently, Qatar to CEB). Unfortunately, PAL does not have a good reputation in Singapore and SQ knows that. So, they know by charging such fares, people will still fly them (SQ)! Simple as that.

U should have seen back in the early 90s when Philippines severed ties with Singapore for a brief moment, and cancelled alll PAL flights to Singapore. SIA jacked up the prices twice the normal amount! Let's not forget in Sept 98 when PAL ceased ops, no need to tell you what did SIA do to the prices of tickets to Manila!
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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:20 pm

Oh yes, I remember when PAL ceased to serve SIN as well as PAL's loss of operations completely. I saw fares (at least when I was inquiring) upwards of $2000S SIN-MNL.

However now, PAL charges a little under $600S and SQ $630S for SIN-MNL. So they are pretty comparable.

Yet Silk Air charges double that to CEB! I certainly hope Qatar gives Silk some competition.

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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:21 pm

Hi... what website did you look at? SILKAIR.com?

One word of advice... don't!

Travel mid Jan from SIN to CEB on SILKAIR can be had for S$383 return, and QATAR Airways is charging S$310 return. These can be purchased through travel agents in Singapore.

Even the local agents are only charging S$815 return for a full fare economy Y class ticket. So I have no idea where Silkair.com comes up with their version of fares!

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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:45 pm

Silk Air's fares are eventually bound to come down as more and more of their routes are being shared with the new LCCs in the region. Tiger Airways will soon be competing with Silk Air on the Singapore-Phuket and Singapore-Hat Yai routes, and prices will come down dramatically. It is hoped that Tiger, and also Valuair, will open more routes competing with the likes of MI.

For those routes with limited or no competition, it has been my experience that certain travel agents in Singapore can offer you the best deals.

 
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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:45 am

You know what? For some reason I completely forgot about travel agents in Singapore. It didn't occur to me to inquire with them.

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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:49 am

Hi, Sorry!

Tiger Airways will soon be competing with Silk Air on the Singapore-Phuket and Singapore-Hat Yai routes

I think I am out of the loop. I was thinking both companies were belonging to SINGAPORE AIRLINES! so why competition??  Confused
 
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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:59 am

Tiger Airways and Silkair are 2 very different carriers. The former is a hard core LCC, no doubt about it. The latter is one confused sandwich.

Silkair, I reckon, will soon function as an airline that connects other international passengers in Singapore through Terminal 2 as their ops are meshed together with SQ's.

Tiger, operates out of Terminal 1, will be a separate airline altogether.

As far as Temasek Holdings (SQ's owner) is concerned, LCCs are coming whether you like it or not. Rather than letting SQ/MI lose money to the foreign LCCs, why not create one themselves and let them compete? If SQ/MI were to lose money, the coins will still fall into Temasek's coffers via Tiger.

That is why u will still find Tiger and Silkair flying some similar routes and singing the same mantra (serving destinations within 4 hours from Singapore).
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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:13 am

From my point of view operating both Tiger and Silk on the same routes is not the best idea.
From my armchair position I would position Silkair as an short-haul feeder for SQ beside the trunk routes to BKK, KUL etc. And it should be with an reduced service, something like NZ is doing domestically and Trans-Tasman.
Tiger could then operate as a full lcc the leisure routes to Krabi or Phuket and maybe also the SQ trunk routes on which Silkair doesn't operate.
 
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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:17 am

SQ ticket prices vary from the 3 daily flights they hv into MNL whereas MI has only 1 daily to CEB i believe. so the $700 return could be of a least favourable timed flight
 
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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:53 am

MI Doesn't have competition on the SIN-CEB-DVO-SIN route therefore can charge high prices.

MS also charges high prices on the Kota kinabalu-CEB-Kota kinabalu route.

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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:44 am

Sorry, KI808, that kind of explanation doesn't gel especially as far as savvy and prudent Singaporeans are concerned. The website may say something.. but in all honesty, Singaporean travellers won't be going that route if they can help it.

Local travel agents are selling SILKAIR SIN-CEB return for as low as S$383 return. Slightly higher prices are only about S$50 more.

No one in their right mind will buy and pay over S$1000 for such a short route.
 
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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:45 pm

perhaps the price on MI's website is for tickets valid more than 6 mths whereas the travel agent's are quoting 'excursion' tickets valid for less than 90days?
 
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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:16 pm

When I saw the title for this thread, I though someone was buying a tie at Nordstrum, not buying $1800 airline tickets!! Big grin And here I thought CO was expensive!! Yeesh!!
 
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RE: Why Is Silk Air So Damn Expensive?

Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:43 am

No one in their right mind will buy and pay over S$1000 for such a short route.

... especially if it's a leisure route. CEB is not known to be a high-flyin hustling bustling city. In fact it's a getaway hence one of the reasons why it's a Silk Air concentration. THAT is the reason I am so baffled by these outrageous fares.
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