noelg
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Syrian LHR-MAN

Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:27 pm

Hi there

Does anyone know if you can get the Syrian 747SP just from LHR-MAN and back, or do you have to be on the long haul?

Also is it very expensive to do? Might be a cool day out at some point  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Cheers,
Noel.
 
gkirk
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:43 pm

I thought the RB flights operated via Paris Orly?
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7LBAC111
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:54 pm

It does show in the system as a valid flight leg, but there are no fares loaded for the route, Maybe someone clued up on fifth freedom rights can help?

26SEP SUN LHR/Z‡1 MAN/‡0
1RB 410 C4 Y4 LHRMAN 1000 1100 747

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JGPH1A
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:06 pm

It shows up as available LHR MAN because RB have not provided the correct traffic restriction information in their schedules messages to prevent GDS users from booking it. Since no fares are filed, it would indicate they are not permitted to transport pax on this route.
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noelg
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:32 pm

RB's website shows it in the schedule, but I don't know whether it's an error or not - you can't book online with them  Sad

http://www.syrian-airlines.com/saa/Result.asp?from=57&to=87&from_month=10&from_day=16&from_year=2004&oneWay=t
 
JGPH1A
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:37 pm

Noel - if you look carefully, if you put in London - Manchester into the RB website, it actually gives you London-Manchester-Damascus travel solutions. Methinks 'tis a pile of pants.
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:36 pm

LHR-MAN would be 6th freedom, or cabotage, and there is no way the UK government would ever allow that from a non-EU carrier
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soups
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:51 pm

on amadeus it shows sunday flight LHR-MAN and weds man-lhr
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trident2e
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:22 am

Soups - I think on Wednesdays it routes Damascus - Manchester - Heathrow -Damascus. I assume on Sundays it does Damascus - Heathrow - Manchester - Damascus.
 
gkirk
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:30 am

And the monday flight?
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trident2e
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:08 am

I think on Mondays it does Damascus - Manchester - Heathrow - Damascus as well.
 
soups
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:13 am

wouldnt be happy if i was flying to LHR and had to stop in MAN a bit out of the way
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gkirk
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:55 am

"wouldnt be happy if i was flying to LHR and had to stop in MAN a bit out of the way"

And the MAN people should be happy having to stop at LHR?
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rutankrd
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:44 am

Syrian UK scheduled is i think something like this NOTE they night stop at Heathrow twice a week so its not actually a daily service even out of London and no Friday flight !

Damascus-Allepo- LHR Saturday
RB409 (Night stop)

LHR -MAN-Damascus Sunday RB410

Damascus-MAN-LHR
Monday RB411 (night stop)

LHR -MAN-Damascus
Tuesday RB412

Damascus-MAN-LHR
Wednesday RB413 (Night stop)

LHR-Aleppo -Damascus
Thursday RB414

The Alleppo stops don't always happen and the Wednesday/Thursday rotation is the most irratic

No flight Friday

Soups you might like to know is actually nearer to the Middle East from Manchester !
Routeing out over Hull across the Netherlands and Germany and central Europe.
Oh and what do you mean Manchester being out of the way.
These flights have mostly been one stop through history.
Until recently they routed via Munich or Paris.
Both of these now have their own services using the A320.
 
trident2e
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:59 am

Well Soups, if I hadn't looked at your profile I would have sworn you were one of those soft Southern jessies! Heaven forbid a passenger heading for LHR should have to stop off in the North first!
 
NEXtime
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:16 am

I can assure you the flight is NOT available from LHR-MAN or v.v. However, if you want to be adventurous check out the fares available at http://www.syrianairlines.co.uk and go to Damascus! You have the option to travel from LHR or MAN at quite reasonable fares. I did just that, traveling out from MAN on 29/8 and returning on 1/9. If you travel from LHR you can take a direct flight or go via MAN to get in the extra sector to appreciate the performance of the SP! Hotels in Damascus aren't cheap but there are some deals to be found. Once you are there its very cheap, also the people there are very friendly. Its a bustling city bursting with historical interest. Not really geared up for tourism but I would have no hesitation in recommending it to anyone! Only drawback is that the airport is quiet and there are rules about photography there which should be adhered to, although theres nothing stopping you taking photos from on board the aircraft. I also managed to sneak a couple of extras off from the cafe during a 2 hour delay on the return flight. During the coming days I will be making efforts to upload a select few! There are a number of SyrianAir & Syrian Gov't machines stored & parked up remote from the terminal (IL76 / TU154 / TU134 / YK40 / AN26) most of which can be seen from the approach road to the airport and from the upper levels of the terminal, although positively identifying registrations is not easy. Hope you get this post before your trip to MIA and hope its of assistance. I also hope that "Francis" does not disrupt your plans...
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noelg
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:33 pm

NEXTime et al,

Thanks for your responses, certainly something to think of as an "unusual" travel destination - would certainly be an interesting trip!

Well our flight tomorrow is cancelled for definate, rebooked on AA LHR-MIA on Sunday but the whole thing could be cancelled, we just don't know for now! V tired after working 0700-2200 yesterday and looking like the same today!
 Yawn

Then we've got the added problem of getting 1400 delegates from the UK to MIA before Monday - many of whom are scheduled to go before tomorrow....busy weekend ahead!

Cheers,
Noel.
 
trident2e
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:19 pm

NEXtime - sounds like an interesting trip. Will you be posting a trip report? Also, how did you find getting into Syria? Was it straightforward or did you get lots of questions from immigration?
 
NEXtime
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:07 pm

A visa is essential, takes about 10 days from the Syrian Embassy. I had no problem at immigration on arrival (15 mins or so in the queue), baggage claim quick & efficient and taxi into City Centre (28km) was equivalent to £6 E/W.
Currency exchange in the arrivals area. I was in the hotel downtown within 75mins of touchdown at Damascus A/P.
On return its a little more chaotic, the work queue does not seem to be realized in the Syrian dictionary, its every man for himself at the baggage screening (All bags are screened before check-in) and then its a similar story at the check-in desks! After check-in the passport control is efficient and theres a good duty free area if you wish. There is a requirement to buy departure tax (Approx £12) before you go through passport control. I did not know about this, so once I had checked in had to be escorted back through the system to do so. I had the ordeal of screening again (hand baggage only this time, but still the same battle to get through). Otherwise I experienced no problems during my short stay and enjoyed the experience. Its like a lot of places in this world, if you are sensible, you will be safe.
Re the trip report, its something I will consider later due to current commitments...
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willo
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:18 pm

You would also need a visa which when I went in 2001 cost about £30. This cannot be obtained on arrival. Suddenly it's not such a cheap flight Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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Nextime just beat me to the visa info

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ME AVN FAN
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RE: Syrian LHR-MAN

Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:24 am

Suggest, you TAKE the long-haul. Damascus is a very beautiful place to visit !

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