JetJock
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Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:43 am

Does anyone know why Northwest's A319's have the registrations of N***NB and NOT N***NW?? This is something that I cant understand why. If you know, please let me know. Thanks
 
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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:58 am

Simple... if they used the NW suffix for the 319s they would end up with duplicating N numbers, which they can't have. To take that further, it stems also from the internal fleet numbering system NWA uses. For example... A320 ship #3201 has an N number of N301NW. If your logic was applied to the 319 fleet, ship #3101 would have the same N number of N301NW. So, NWA had to go with something different. Hope this helps.


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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:29 am

Thanks, yes that makes sense, and it helps alot! Thanks Azjubilee! Helps soo much.
 
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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:35 am

This is also true for ATA and AirTran. AirTran's is AT, but some of ATA's aircraft was in AT before they changed it. Now they are TZ as you can see on their 737's and 757-300s
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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:03 am

I think the NW planes that end in "US" are even more awkward.

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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:34 am

Try this....most of the A319's are leased from a company called
H N B corporation.....N B? hhmmmmm

I liked the Reg numbers ending in U S. It was a tradition by NW dating back to the Electra's of 1959. Northwest U S also included DC-8's, 707-320C, 320B, 720B, Electra's,
727-100's, 200's and equipment used today. I went to the prop book and so far have not found any NW props ending in U S.
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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:36 am

Perhaps tradition, but US Airways is better suited for "US" registrations, not to mention that the majority of US planes have "US" registrations.

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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:50 am

I was once told it stood for the leasing company/bank that fronted the cash for the airplanes...Nations Bank, hence the NB?
 
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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:02 am

There is no aircraft in the NWA fleet of N301NW. N301US is ship 3201 and was the first A320 to join the fleet in 1989. At the time. NWA Tail numbers all had US as the lettering (Original NWA that is). Needless to say when USAir at the time switched to this, NWA had to go with NW, NB, and even a 320 with an NA. (N350NA)

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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:15 am

There might be no N301NW, but it still illustrates the point I was trying to make.


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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:42 am

When NW was using "US" there was no US Airways. US really wouldn't work for Allegheny or Piedmont, US Airways predecessors.

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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:48 am

Perhaps tradition, but US Airways is better suited for "US" registrations, not to mention that the majority of US planes have "US" registrations.

Just about half of US Airways aircraft have "US" registrations. (My count is just under half, 140/282, but I'm likely off.) About a quarter have "AU" registrations, about a quarter have "UW" registrations, and a lone 757 has a "VJ" registration.

Most of the instances where US has recently given planes "UW" registrations are where NW was already using the "US" registration.
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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:46 pm

Just about half of US Airways aircraft have "US" registrations. (My count is just under half, 140/282, but I'm likely off.) About a quarter have "AU" registrations, about a quarter have "UW" registrations, and a lone 757 has a "VJ" registration.

Well, AU, UW, and VJ do not interfere with other US airlines or make things all that complicated compared to NWA with "US".

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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:12 pm

Piedmont was not one of the first pieces of US. US bought Piedmont around the same era as PSA
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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:29 am

Reply #9. You just hate it when a flight attendant knows more than you. A pilot! ! !

My point has now been made.

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You can always tell from the tail numbers at NWA when the aircraft were acquired.

NW-NB-NA All aircraft after about 1990.
US-All NWA purchased aircraft before 1990.
Whatever else, merger or acquired from EA. (ie) N8933E
Some merger numbers,
RW
NC
RC
N
L
And whatever else you can come up with.




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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:40 pm

Ive always thought the NB stands for "New Bus", as in new airbus... just a little thought that rolled around in my head sitting on the jumpseat.
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RE: Why Is NW's A319 Reg's End With NB And Not NW

Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:13 pm

Some pilots have said that NB stands for one of the Checchi companies called "New Bridge." Could be true or could not be? Anyone know ?

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