zvezda
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SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:17 pm

According to Boeing, the B777-300ER has sufficient range to serve SFO and LAX nonstop from SIN, given 365 passengers in three classes and 85% winds. SQ's current B777-300 configuration seats 332 passengers in three classes. It seems like a safe bet that SQ would configure the B777-300ER with the same number or fewer seats. It's possible that SQ might configure 4 or 5 aircraft with Executive Economy and greater pitch in C (like the current A340-500 configuration) specially for SFO and LAX.

My expectation is that SQ will serve SFO and LAX nonstop from SIN using the B777-300ER and serve ORD and EWR nonstop from SIN using either the A340-500 or B777-200LR.
 
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:57 pm

I'm sure anything is possible in this day and age. SQ might put some of their 777-300ERs on thoses routes, but wern't the aircraft originally ordered to replace the 747 fleet? Correct me if i'm wrong

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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:09 pm

It would help if SQ ordered 772LR's so they can operate them to ORD and EWR.
 
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:18 pm

SQ has not ordered any -LR, not yet anyway, or did I miss something?

Maybe its wishful thinking from some a.nutters?  Big grin

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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:21 pm

While the B777-300ER may be able to serve LAX n SFO from SIN but I doubt it can do the return leg. If u check again on boeing's website, the B777-300ER can't make the return leg
 
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:26 pm

I don't see the 773 coming to SFO. First, the rumor is that flight 1/2 will be a A380 as soon as they are brought online. Second, flight 15/15 via ICN does not have the need for a larger type. Third, from what a SQ manager here told me was that they are looking into non-stop for the second flight. Now we can only speculate on weather thats with a A345 (if more are brought online) or the 772LR.

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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:19 am

My expectation is that SQ will serve SFO and LAX nonstop from SIN using the B777-300ER

There is a zero percent chance of this happening.

The still air distance of the flight is FAR beyond the capabilities of the plane with anything near its full payload.

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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:36 am

Oops! I checked the Boeing site for SIN-LAX and didn't bother to check for LAX-SIN. My apologies. I guess we'll have to wait for the B777-200LR.
 
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:36 am

Is there a chance that in SQ's usually premium configuration, the B773ER can make it LAX/SFO-SIN non-stop?

By the way, welcome to a.net, Zvezda  Smile.

 
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:06 am

If SQ projects that it can make more $$$ by flying the B 772LR to EWR and 773ER nonstop from SIN to LAX/SFO instead of the A 345s on these routes then I wouldnt be surprised if they trade in their A 345s for B 772LRs like they did with the A 343-B 777 order in the mid 90s.
 
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:14 am

No, Solnabo,
WIshful thinking was for SQ ordering the A346.
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:06 am

Any chance of Boeing increasing the MTOW of the B777-300ER to give it additional range? Would that suffice or would it also need additional fuel capacity?

Would lowering the seat density to that of SQ's A340-500s suffice to extend the range of the B777-300ER such that LAX-SIN and SFO-SIN become possible?
 
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:06 am

When would SQ come to ORD?
 
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:15 am


Would lowering the seat density to that of SQ's A340-500s suffice to extend the range of the B777-300ER such that LAX-SIN and SFO-SIN become possible?


No.


When would SQ come to ORD?


They had been in ORD, but they left after SARS.
 
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:09 am

Boeing has already pushed the MTOW on the 773ER several times. The plane has been kicking a$$ in flight testing and now in service. Because of this success, they have added to the range of the 772LR on offer
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:10 pm

With four engines, there is more that can go wrong and, both in theory and in practice, a greater chance of a diversion. That's why, all else being equal (which is rarely the case), I prefer an ETOPS twin for long-haul.
 
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:42 am

Any chance of Boeing increasing the MTOW of the B777-300ER

EK's been behind Boeing to do so... so perhaps.





to give it additional range? Would that suffice or would it also need additional fuel capacity?

The former would grant longer range at MTOW, the latter would grant longer range throughout the typical operating TOW range of the aircrafts' designated mission profiles.
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RE: SQ B777-300ER To Serve SFO & LAX Nonstop?

Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:30 am

While I'd love to see the 773ER get longer range, but if I'm not mistaken, presently its tanks limited.

The efficiency improvements certainly did help a great deal.

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