duke
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More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:53 pm

I found this on Planes.cz

07.09.2004
Z nebe zmizel další vzácný a zajímavý stroj – Caravelle SE210. 27.08. se při přistání na letišti Gisenyi (Rwanda) u hranic s Demokratickou republikou Kongo zřítila Caravelle SE210-11R registrace 3D-KIK. Majitelem stroje je uváděn Jacques „Kiki“ Lemaire. Osoba podezřelá z přepravy diamantů od angolské svého času protivládní organizace UNITA k překupníkům a zbraní od překupníků pro UNITA. Dřívějším majitelem 36 let staré Caravelle byl Gabon Express (3D-SEP). Jednalo se pravděpodobně o poslední létající Caravelle na světě

Translated from Czech, it says in short: on 27 August in Gisenyi Airport (Rwanda) 36-year-old Caravelle 3D-KIK (ex-Gabon Express, c/n 251) crashed. The article says it was the last flying Caravelle, but I think there are one or two still flying, and a number stored that could perhaps be made airworthy. I found in another place that this Caravelle burned and that no one was injured, but would like more info. What exactly happened here?
 
miamix707
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:21 pm

I dont have the answer but found the topic interesting so I'm trying to keep it alive  Big grin

I have never seen a Caravelle in real life.. that's sad : )
 
teva
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:38 pm

It was one of the 3 caravelles used by the French Air force in French Polynesia. If I work for airlines today, it is because of those 3 fabulous birds.
I have been fascinated by the flexibility offered by their quick change capabilities.
It was possible to use them as full pax (90) or combi (72 seats + 1 88" plt, or 54 seats+2 plts). The seats were fixed on a plt.
This end makes me very sad but doesn't come as a surprise to me, due to the activities of Kiki Lemaire.
I know there was a project to make airworthy again the Caravelle used by De Gaulle, but I have no update on this project
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JHSfan
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:32 pm

A forced landing of a Congolese aircraft
No victim was reported: the crew was safe,...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

But the caravelle...  Sad

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bennett123
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:39 pm

JHSfan

Good to see what all on board are safe, but a shame about the SE210.

The only amusing point is the statement that the cargo is entirely danaged. I think BBQ'd is the word that I would use.

Does anyone know what the technical problem was?.
 
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keesje
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:40 pm

"Never mistake motion for action." Ernest Hemingway
 
FriendlySkies
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:42 pm

I believe Gabon Express still had a Caravelle 10B, not sure if it's still flying. Sad that another one of these beautiful aircraft was destroyed, but 35 years of flying is very respectable for any aircraft, especially one produced in such small numbers (only about 200 for all variants).  Sad
 
duke
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:36 am

That thing is TOAST! Glad no one was hurt.

FriendlySkies, that WAS the (ex-)Gabon Express Caravelle.
 
Jan Mogren
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:40 pm

 Crying

 Crying

 Crying

 Crying

/JM
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Treg
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:55 pm

Jan Mogren has some excellent shots of this Caravelle on his site:

http://home.swipnet.se/airline/gabon.html
 
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keesje
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:00 am

Jan Mogren,

Great detailed / dynamic / crowded

shots of a revolutionairy aircraft...






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sovietjet
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:33 am

Why does it smoke from one engine?
 
Jan Mogren
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:10 am

Thanks Treg and Keesje!

Only one engine had the nozzle modification done. The other engine smoked.

/JM
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fanofjets
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:54 am

Thank you for the great Web site, Treg! Those air-to-air shots are magnificent, definitely enhancing the lines of that beautiful aircraft.

I certainly miss "la belle Caravelle."
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:25 pm

Miamix707,

Sorry to hear that you haven't seen a Caravelle jet in real life. I used to feast when I was growing up in MNL on a Caravelle jet operated by Sterling Philippines Airways (a subsidiary of Sterling of Denmark) flying charters from MNL to HKG competing with Air Manila International B707 charters as well! Caravelle is one of my top 3 best-looking aircrafts.

Last year, I had another encounter with a CVL jet------in CMH!! It was parked near the cargo area----it had markings of Airborne Express! I'm not sure if it still there. Anybody knows? Also anybody knows what routes did it fly for Airborne Express and what years? Thank you in advance for the answers.
 
miamiair
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RE: More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:04 pm

I saw a couple in BOG. Converted to freighters, but the aerocivil declared them un-airworthy as there was no substantiation for the structure done. The owner of the airlanes said he swore by them. That was in 2001.
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