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GA 747-400's

Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:21 pm

G'day Folks,

With Garuda Indonesia pulling their Jakarta-Amsterdam service after 35 years does anyone know what will become of their 744's?

My knowledge of Garuda is a bit rusty but I'm pretty sure they don't have any 'long-haul' flights that could justify 744's except LGW and FRA if they still fly that route.

I know they have 'disposed' of all of their B747-2U3's recently but with mostly intra-Asia services and NZ and Australian flights I thought these were pretty much covered with A330's and DC-10's.

I seem to recall reading recently that PK-GSI has recently had a re-spray, so am I correct in assuming that these 3 a/c will stay in the fleet.

Any discussion/opinions on this topic would be most appreciated.

rgds

Tom
 
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RE: GA 747-400's

Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:59 am

My knowledge of Garuda is a bit rusty but I'm pretty sure they don't have any 'long-haul' flights that could justify 744's except LGW and FRA if they still fly that route.

They do not fly this route anymore. Pulled out last year.
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RE: GA 747-400's

Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:44 am

Um, why would they pull AMS? That would be like Vietnam Airlines pulling CDG or QF pulling LHR
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RE: GA 747-400's

Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:16 pm

The yields for CGK-SIN-AMS are extremely low. They cannot seem to attract high yield travellers unlike KLM because the brand recognition GA carries doesn't spell pristige or reliability outside of Indonesia.

Therefore, GA has opted to code share their European ops through Kuala Lumpur with MAS. So that will effectively mean the end of GA metal on European soil.

As for their 744s, with a sudden surplus in aircraft, they might opt to store it until things get better. Or they might just dispose the aircraft. However, the 744s are also used for flights to Jeddah, Riyadh and Damman so they might just keep them a while longer.
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RE: GA 747-400's

Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:30 pm

too bad... I really like flying on GA. Unfortunately for us here in the US they've pulled their flight out of LAX back in 1997. I usually travel with them on leisure so being delayed all the time (it was their notorious moto) didn't really bother me much. They have good inflight meals, and the seat pitch is among the better ones compared to other international carriers.

Yes, their IFE is very outdated but for the airfares that are usually one of the lowest; it really is the price you have to pay in order to save money. I really hope they survive and will expand soon if not later.

My last GA flight was to/from SIN-DPS in their executive class. One of the best. Long live Garuda!

[Edited 2004-09-09 07:32:47]
 
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RE: GA 747-400's

Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:58 pm

Three B744s remain very much in the fleet. PK-GSG has recently been upgraded with AVOD, PK-GSH and PK-GSI are to undergo this upgrade later. The Amsterdam route will be abandoned effective November. However, September already saw a reduction from 4 to 3 weeklies on the route, and Garuda will reduce the frequency further in October to 2 weekly.

As from the winter season, the 744s will be deployed to the Middle East as before (Jeddah, Riyadh and Dammam) and the Amsterdam capacity will be deployed on the CGK-NRT-DPS route, replacing the currently deployed A330. B744s may also regularly be found replacing B734s on the CGK-DPS route during busy periods.

Incidentally, Garuda is also abandoning service to Taipei and Seoul with its own aircraft, but will remain present through code-shares with both China Airlines and Korean Air. Garuda used to operated 5 weekly DC10 flights on the DPS-TPE-ICN route.

 
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RE: GA 747-400's

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:53 am

Hi HB-IWC,

"PK-GSG has recently been upgraded with AVOD"

Thanks for your info, I assume from this GSG has PTV's in every seat?

Thanks again

Tom/PER
 
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RE: GA 747-400's

Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:45 pm

I think the AVOD will be only for Business Class. Although Premium Economy also has PTVs, I am not sure if they will be AVOD enabled.

YCL should remain the same, status quo and PTV-less.
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RE: GA 747-400's

Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:29 pm

AVOD is indeed available in C and Premium Economy only.

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