KAUST
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Penguins On WN?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:31 pm

Ok excuse the stupid question, but I keep hearing about penguins on WN flights. Is this real penguins, or some poor F/A who lost a coin toss and has to dawn a penguin suit for the entire flight?

All answers are welcome, even the inevitable sarcastic ones.

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Penguins Do Fly

Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:43 pm

Yes, occasionally SWA transported real live penquins for Seaworld. They were accompanied by handlers, in the cabin in pet carriers and were usually boarded with much fanfare. Post 9/11 they haven't flown though but that may change...

Southwest Airlines hopes to fly penguins again

DALLAS (AP) — Southwest Airlines is seeking the government's OK to bring back its popular SeaWorld penguin tours, in which two of the flightless birds are put on jets to promote the amusement park as a summer destination.

The promotion was shut down after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2000.

A few security concerns must be addressed before the Dallas-based carrier can resurrect the promotion.

Will the penguins will be subject to the same security searches as other passengers: stepping through metal detectors and even being wanded by federal screeners.

"One of the things that they mentioned was, `Would it be possible that we would be able to wand the animals?'" Melanie Jones, creative manager for Southwest, was quoted in Saturday's editions of The Dallas Morning News.

Ed Martelle, spokesman for the Transportation Security Administration, said: "That's a real question."

SeaWorld and Southwest Airlines have worked since the 1980s to lure business to parks in San Antonio, Orlando, Fla., and San Diego.

Southwest flew SeaWorld animals — most often their penguins, but sometimes a few parrots — to cities that are nonstop flights from the parks.

"If we can find a way to make this happen, far be it from us to not say yes," Martelle told the newspaper. "The trick is being able to do this and not compromise security."

Two Magellanic penguins named Pete and Penny are sent from San Antonio for the annual promotional event. Once they arrive, they are greeted by local dignitaries and visit children at school, Ronald McDonald houses and hospitals.

Sixteen months after the attacks, Southwest has approached the federal government to craft protocols for the animals to fly again.

"It's so much of who we are," Jones said. "We think it was the right thing to do to get their approval and comments ahead of time."

Southwest has been informed that whatever animals would be brought would be subject to wanding at the security checkpoint. SeaWorld officials say it's OK for the animals to be wanded because the penguins travel well and are used to being handled.

"We feel like they really brighten people's days," said Fran Stephenson, SeaWorld's spokeswoman in San Antonio. "Besides, they don't have any pockets to empty."

This link has a pic with the tuxedoed traveller in the cockpit-
http://members.aol.com/pengwinldy/myhomepage/travel.html

Here is a newsstory about one of the penquins "goodwill tours"-
http://www.amarillonet.com/stories/011800/new_visit.shtml




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RE: Penguins On WN?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:06 pm

Cant They Fly like In Cabbin Cats and Dogs, Carrier thru the X-Ray then the Owner Carries said animal thru the walkthru Metal Detector ????
 
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RE: Penguins On WN?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:10 am

I can tell one group of penguins that won't be doing much flying anytime soon..........those from Pittsburgh!  Big grin

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RE: Penguins On WN?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:16 am

Awesome! That will make the day for the TSA screener...screening penguins...
What if they find anything and want to talk to the penguin?
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RE: Penguins On WN?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:28 am

Will the penguins will be subject to the same security searches as other passengers: stepping through metal detectors and even being wanded by federal screeners.
That brought such a huge smile to my face!  Laugh out loud

I wonder, though, if there would be any concerns for the penguins, since their "feet" would get dirty, and they usually have to stay in water for so much time.

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RE: Penguins On WN?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:39 am

How long will it take for one of the penguins to appear on the no-fly/selectee list? I will look at the next copy when it comes out to see if any of them are on it.

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RE: Penguins On WN?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:25 pm

Just to add some info, penguins do not have to spend all of their time in the water. I actually work with them and they usually are out of the water 75% of the times. Also, if anyones watches Airline, they actually had Penguins on a Southwest flight from SAN-MDW on one episode.

Just my $0.02.

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RE: Penguins On WN?

Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:05 am

WN will maybe let you transport animals in the cabin if they are in a secure carrier and they are only on a one-way ticket. Not always is this the case. WN does not seem to have a firm policy on this matter.

Also letting live penguins loose in the cabin is huge liability issue for the airline. Have you ever been pecked by a hungry penguin? They may be cute, but it hurts like hell!
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RE: Penguins On WN?

Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:50 am

StearmanNut,

I know exactly what you're talking about...I have the marks to prove it.

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RE: Penguins On WN?

Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:33 pm

I'm confused why they need additional security for penguins. Dogs, cats and "normal birds" fly every day without any issues. What's the difference between a penguin and a...parrot? Other than climate of course..

 
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RE: Penguins On WN?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:00 am

I am moving to Seattle at the end of the year and was planning to drive my car out there then fly back to get the rest of my clothes. I also have a cornsnake (which is non-poisonous)...would they allow me to take it on board in the cabin?
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RE: Penguins On WN?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:25 am

UAL Has transported penguins,Air Force Falcon birds, koala bears, it isn't a new thing.

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RE: Penguins On WN?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:27 am

Are they afraid they will take over the cockpit?
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RE: Penguins On WN?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:28 am

what about an ostrich? *lol*  Big thumbs up
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RE: Penguins On WN?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:41 am

"I also have a cornsnake ...would they allow me to take it on board in the cabin?"

"They" meaning Southwest? No. The snake should make the drive if you have a ticket on WN. WN does not accept pets of any kind for travel in the cabin or as cargo from passengers. The only exceptions being: the Seaworld promotional tours, dogs for the handicapped or the infrequent instance when an employee gets special permisson from management to transport a pet as cargo.

PS- Koalas are not bears. They are marsupials!  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: Penguins On WN?

Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:52 am

PS- Koalas are not bears. They are marsupials!

where were you when they named the animal koala bear? huh, rocket man.
gUESS the world is retarded?

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RE: Penguins On WN?

Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:25 am

gUESS the world is retarded?

No, just the people who think a Koala is a bear. Probably the same people who think a whale is a fish, and that QANTAS is spelled with a 'U'  Smile

 
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RE: Penguins On WN?

Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:51 am

PA carried a koala (I think they named him "Sydney"), complete with handler and a HUGE bale of eucalyptus leaves, in First Class on a "goodwill tour" from SYD across the States, years ago. The koala was always a big hit with all of the pax on that plane whenever it flew.

My dad, back in the early 50's, used to see elephants carried as cargo on board Curtis C-46 Commando's with the handler riding along to keep the elephant on his knees throughout the flight.

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