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Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:02 pm

I know the time for them to be delivered is coming soon.
Does anybody know the status? When will they arrive?
Registrations?

Thanks

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:07 pm

MX's first 318 is cn 2328.

To give you reference, cn 2218 is due to be delivered 10.05.04

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:17 pm

Quote :

MX's first 318 is cn 2328.

To give you reference, cn 2218 is due to be delivered 10.05.04

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Eh ? I thought c/n 2218 was N806FT with Frontier? I heard this ferrying across the Pond to the USA on delivery on 11/5/04 as 'FFT806'. Is this now for MXA ??

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:25 pm

No.

MX's first is 2328. 2218, for F9, you're right. I confused the European date standard with the US. I was trying to provide an example of where the line would be on November 5th, not May 11th.

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:27 pm

1st. MEXICANA A318 is 2328 as Gigneil said.

2328 XA-UBQ
2333 XA-UBR
2358 XA-UBS
2367 XA-UBT
2377 XA-UBU
2394 XA-UBV

First 6 A318s!


Gigneil - Glad to know the 1st A318s will be delivered on October 5th, 2004! I was told it was getting here between the 20 and 25th... and according to some rumors the first A318 perhaps will wear a special c/s!!!


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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:29 pm

November or October ? I thought that month 10 was October ?  Laugh out loud  Smile

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:46 pm

Oops..... ahh been awake since 6 am! I need to go to bed! My mistake!

Truth..... Robk.... so we will see it on Nov 5th, 2004!! Too bad. I was told we would see the first between 20/25th....



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MX's first 318 is cn 2328.

To give you reference, cn 2218 is due to be delivered 10.05.04

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Eh ? I thought c/n 2218 was N806FT with Frontier? I heard this ferrying across the Pond to the USA on delivery on 11/5/04 as 'FFT806'. Is this now for MXA ??


CN 2218 is due for Frontier.... CN 2228 is due for MX!  Laugh out loud  Smile


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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:55 pm

Quote:

CN 2218 is due for Frontier.... CN 2228 is due for MX!


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No!!! C/n 2228 is an A319LR with Air France as F-GRXH ! You mean c/n 2328 surely?  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:02 pm

Damn! Ouch! I lost the battle....... maybe next time I'll win!

Yes, 2328 is due for MX!  Nuts

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:12 pm

Well now, looks like MX gets to spend a bunch of money on gas
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:35 pm

Delivery for MSN 2328 has been slated to 10-November-2004.
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:54 pm

Why does N1120a says so on reply 20?
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:02 am

Ghost... Do tell us what you know about the "special" c/s!

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:14 am

Sorry, I meant reply 9 instead of 20.
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:08 am

Wow, this got out of hand.

MX's first 318 is 2328. It will probably not come this year.

I was trying to give an example of where the line was, currently, but apparently that just caused more confusion.

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:15 am

Someone read my mind! I was just thinking about this two days ago. So what is the status are they going to get them this year or next year. From what I have read in the past they are suppose to get them later this year, around November and December.

Can't wait to see the A318 in MX colors. Whats the status of the F100s and what routes will see the A318? Any in the US, like ORDBig grin

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:57 pm

The A318's will give Mexiana flexability on most of their routes into the USA and Canada and also allow them to develope new routes like QUITO, DTW,
CHARLOTTE, and downsize in low seasons to YUL, YYZ, YVR.

Rumor has it that their new CEO wants to change the aircraft colors and
interiors. They just added DVD's to their Business Class product and are
revamping their meal services in Business Class which I think is very good
at the moment.

New Flight Attendant uniforms are also on the way.

N1120a, why would Mexicana spent money on gas?? A318s are fuel efficient
and from what I have read, more than the B737's. Please clarify and anyone
correct me if I am wrong.
 
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:05 am

A318s are fuel efficient
and from what I have read, more than the B737's. Please clarify and anyone
correct me if I am wrong.


Not interested in an A vs B war here, but 737NG in comparison to their rivals at Airbus are between a 6% and 13% cheaper to operate.

Will try to post the source as it is interesting to compare such efficient pieces of metal of both builders.

About MX uniforms, I see no point at changing them; specially the single-piece dress the girls have. Looks flaming HOT !!!

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:26 am

I was not doing A v. B or 737 v. A32S. I was talking about the fact that the A318 (and to a lesser extent, the 736) is way too much plane for its capacity. That is the reason both planes have not sold like their siblings, simply because they drink too much Jet A for the PAX they carry. The thing about the 737NG v. A32S is that the 737s tend to be more efficient, a bit cheaper for mx and a bit longer range, but Airbus tends to offer lower aquisition costs, better financing and different amounts of mx aid for their craft. Also, Airbus offers the A321 which, though not much bigger than the 739, has the exits that allow more seating. This should change with the 739X. Again, I prefer the 737 for its looks and history, but never have a problem flying on an A32S. In fact, the only one of the A32S I have not done is the 318, so I will be looking to get a ride at some point. I will get a 739 ride in 2 weeks, so I will only need the 736 to complete that one.
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:28 am


Not interested in an A vs B war here, but 737NG in comparison to their rivals at Airbus are between a 6% and 13% cheaper to operate.


Well... so says Boeing. These figures vary from airline to airline, route to route, and do not really account for production availability and financing rates. If they did, then everyone in the world would have the 737....
 
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:35 am

Not interested in an A vs B war here, but 737NG in comparison to their rivals at Airbus are between a 6% and 13% cheaper to operate.

No they're not. The average cost to operate of a 73G and 319 flips back and forth month to month.

AVITAS is the accepted standard for this information.

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:55 pm

I guess the whole point of N1120a's comment was that the new regional jets of comparable capacity are more fuel efficient than the A318 or the 736 for that matter. In any case, I think MX's choice was driven by two factors, one being fleet commonality (which is itself a way of saving money) and the second one being the range of the A318 which will allow MX to be more flexible in seasonal routes and start new thin routes to other countries like Navega explained.
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:16 am

Ghost... Do tell us what you know about the "special" c/s!

Since Navega has disclose some information, then I'll tell the others what I told you the other day via your email.

Since past June, some people at Mexicana has been thinking that its time for the airline to get a new and fresh C/S!

Now, that they'll be receiving the new Airbus 318s, Mexicana wants to take advantage of this and introduce the new c/s.

In case the new c/s doesn't get approval it is rumored that the first A318 will get a special color scheme for being the first A318 in Latin America. Perhaps Airbus has something to do with this! And Airbus is trying to get new customers like Taca, Tam and Lan Chile... who knows!


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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:30 am

JJ could be a good candidate for the A318 when they decide to get rid of the F100's, although they might want to replace them with A319's instead if the Brazilian market keeps on growing. In any case, it is really cool that MX will introduce the type in Latin America... I am sure Airbus is very happy and is putting together an interesting offer for MX to acquire widebodies.

Anybody know if MX is planning some sort of special "maiden" flight of the A318 with special introductory fares or a special anything?
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:43 am

Anybody know if MX is planning some sort of special "maiden" flight of the A318 with special introductory fares or a special anything?

Not wanting to sound like a promo, but now that we're talking about "special anythings" and fares, did you guys know that "Los Martes son de Aviacsa"?  Big thumbs up

I just saw a pin on a CSA at MTY the other day and was intrigued to know more about it....

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:53 am


>did you guys know that "Los Martes son de Aviacsa"?<

Reminds of "Martes de Tianguis en Gigante" or "Miércoles de Plaza en Comercial Mexicana". Big grin
 
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:47 pm

Hmm this new CEO sure wants to get loose on the spending !

How long has MX had those standard colors?? 8 years or so?? I think it looks pretty good, but yeah I guess a change couldn't be that bad to change. But new F/A uniforms?? come on, the ones they got now are practically new !! And I definitley do agree with Fly727 !! The one piece uniform that some of the female F/A's wear is classy and so very sexy, a lovely change from the old puke green vests they used to have... but really, the worst used to be the green blazers that the supervisors had to wear.. ay ay ay !! They looked like bartenders on the love boat or the Tropicana !

So, in any case, if they do change uniforms.. I just hope they keep a one piece option for the ladies. Big grin And I guess having new colors really couldn't hurt, especially if they're dashing and exciting !! Let's just hope the A318 brings us exciting stuff..

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:22 pm

I'm sorry to go off-topic, but is there any news about the A330s for MX available yet?

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:16 am

AM-Transportes Aereos Meridionais (Brazil)">JJ could be a good candidate for the A318 when they decide to get rid of the F100's, although they might want to replace them with A319's instead if the Brazilian market keeps on growing.

Agree with this! For instance MX should have consider and ordered an extra batch of 10 319s from the beginning instead of bringing the 318. But, there's always a reason behind for this issues.


"Los Martes son de Aviacsa"?

What in the world!! Whats that all about?


How long has MX had those standard colors?? 8 years or so??

1996-2004 - exactly 8 years. Also AM started to change colors in 2002 when they only had 8 with their new colors.


But new F/A uniforms?? come on, the ones they got now are practically new !!

AGREE


The one piece uniform that some of the female F/A's wear is classy and so very sexy, a lovely change from the old puke green vests they used to have...

AGREE. I also hated the puke green vests they had! Im glad they're gone!


Let's just hope the A318 brings us exciting stuff..

Im sure they will! Expect other things with AeroCaribe also....


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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:36 am

"Los Martes son de Aviacsa"?

What in the world!! Whats that all about?

It's a special promo that Aviacsa started about two weeks ago. You can buy tickets only on Tuesdays and fly between 09/21 and 12/12. They are usually up to 70% off in some cases. For example, you can fly HMO-CUN via MTY at $105 USD each way +taxes. The normal fare is usually +$400 each way.

Only some destinations apply. I would recommend to everyone to check your local paper on Mondays and Tuesdays and see the promos for the week. Today it was MEX, MTY and GLD at $70 each way and to CUN, ACA and PVR at $100 dlls each way.

Also, at least here in HMO, MX and AM also are advertising this fares. Last week it was a Tuesday, this week it was on a Monday.

Here are some examples from my local newspaper:
http://www.elimparcial.com/edicionimpresa/ejemplaresanteriores/20040913/HOM7.pdf <--- Mexicana
http://www.elimparcial.com/edicionimpresa/ejemplaresanteriores/20040913/HOM15.pdf <--- AeroMexico
http://www.elimparcial.com/edicionimpresa/ejemplaresanteriores/20040914/HOM7.pdf <--- Aviacsa
 
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:48 am

HMOMX,

Thank you very much for the links!

Its very interesting to see all this new ideas Aviacsa is bringing to our aviation! Nice fares!


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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:03 am

The A318's will make their first flight to Quito or to
Charlotte or to Detroit.

I pick Detroit first.

 
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:15 am

probably LAX will be the first airport to receive the 318's. They always get the new aircraft.
 
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:29 am

Is it really profitable for MX to fly an International route with such a small capacity airplane? How many pax does it take? A 100?

100 X $500.00 US = $ 500,000

Fuel...
Pilots...
F/A...
Airport services, landing, platform crew...
Meals...
Crew overnight expenses...
Navigation...
And so on...

How much is left and the end?

It seems to me like domestic short routes would be more profitable. Also a domestic ticket is more expensive than an international one with MX.
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:33 am


Anthony,

>>100 X $500.00 US = $ 500,000<<

100 x $500.00 = $50,000, not 500,000
 
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:37 am

Anthsaun;

Many MX routes are seasonal, both domestic and international. It makes more sense to downsize the aircraft 320-319-318, rather than have less flights. 318's will fit perfectly in MX's system as the aircraft has the range for most routes, and can operate profitably in new routes, such as the proposed Guayaquil, Quito, Detroit, etc etc.

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:16 am

Thanks JoseMEX for the correcting. An extra 0 makes a huge difference.

A320319318:
MX has just a few seasonal routes. Most of MX's routes are regular ones.


There is a rumor around about MX exchanging some B757's for A320's. And a short while ago, MX's pathway pointed out to acquire more B757's. So, what's the deal?

I think, B757's at MX are great money makers for MEX-CUN, as well as for all the other MEXICO-USA routes. The only reason I would change them is for the leasing price, but, right now the B757 leasing cost has to go down because Boeing is taking it out of production. There is not a big demand for the B757 right now.
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:45 am

Anthsaun;

My appologies, I mean to say load factors are seasonal, of course most of MX routes are year round.

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:49 pm

Can someone confirm that the first F100 to leave is the XA-SHI (Tampico)?
I heard that today (Sep18) it was leaving service to go to maintenance and then to QA

And speaking of MX aircraft, for all who was wondering about the 757 going MEX-EZE-MEX non-stop, here is the proof:
MX1690/16Sep
EZE out 10:55A N762MX
MEX in 06:35P
Omite escala en PTY  Big thumbs up

MX1691/17Sep
MEX out 08:25P N762MX
Direct to EZE due equipment capacity.  Big thumbs up
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:28 am

Can someone confirm that the first F100 to leave is the XA-SHI (Tampico)?
I heard that today (Sep18) it was leaving service to go to maintenance and then to QA.


Correct and Incorrect!

SHI along with another F100 will leave the fleet. Fleet will be reduce to 8. The same number that will stay with QA. Cuase QA will have to keep their Dc9s for a few more months... they have to stick with the lease contract signeged a few years ago.

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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:28 pm

Yep, thanks for the info, today (19Sep) XA-SHI visited MTY on MX12/140, full flight.

And to complete the info about MX1690/1691:
MX1691/17SEP
MEX/OUT 8:25P / N762MX
MEX/OFF 8:45P
EZE/ON 8:20A
EZE/IN 8:25A

Direct MEX-EZE without PTY stop.  Big thumbs up
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RE: Mexicana A318 Status?

Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:53 pm

To Update the status for ya'll...

MSN 2328 is in the wing mate station today (Sep 20).
MSN 2318 is F9's, not 2218.

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