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DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:00 am

This may have been brought up....but I have been hearing speculation of a Delta/Continental merger for a while. I think they tried this a few years ago but were stopped by the Justice Department among other things.

Does the new SkyTeam alliance bring this a step closer?

Could new labor contracts resulting from a potential DL bankruptcy make this easier?
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:08 am

There has been zero talk of a DL/CO merger since the last try fell apart. That was in the mid-1990s, when CO was looking for a partner. Delta was a candidate, but CO realized it could get the benefits of a merger (by partnering with NW) without all of the problems of an actual merger (like seniority integration). There was never an official merger agreement between CO and DL, so there was nothing for the Justice Department to stop.
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:27 am

I think the realities of the current business environment, make a DL/CO, or any other merger, a definite possibility in the very near future.

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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:36 am

What would be the benefits of two legacies merging..???
I don't see any... The problem is not needing more... It is how to change what you are so you can compete with the new environment...
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:38 am

Delta should merge with UsAir. That would be a match made in heaven.
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:42 am

what about in terms of international service....LLC is clearly the most successful thus far...CO and DL have great European service (thanks to PanAM) which is fed by their domestic networks...wouldn't a streamlining/reduction of a domestic framework with a CO/DL merger and consolidation of international traffic to compete with the European legacies benefit both carriers?

minus any anti-competative factors.....
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:48 am

We wouldn't want to contaminate DL's fleet with USAir's Airbus fleet...now would we....  Wink/being sarcastic

A DL/CO merger would offer fleet synergy.....unlike the A310s DL got out of the Pam Am merger
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:01 am

It would make sense but would CO want to saddle it self with Delta's debts and obligations? It would make for a pretty stong powerhouse to match AA, UA and NW.

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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:20 am

It would work well with routes and fleet. Hubs:

ATL
IAH
EWR
CVG
SLC

Fleet: (Approximations)
52 737-200Adv
82 737-300
66 737-500
36 737-700
149 737-800
16 737-900 (I have no clue how many CO has)
162 757-200
15 767-200
10 767-200ER
28 767-300
59 767-300ER
37 767-400ER
26 777-200IGW
120 MD-88
16 MD-90-30

Pretty sweet fleet. 874 aircraft. They would form, by far, the largest carrier in the world, and would carry over 150,000,000 passengers and have around 3,500 flights per day. For now though, I kinda like having DL and CO as separate carriers. But one day, a CO and DL matchup may make sense, both carriers are so similar.

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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:36 am

Erm - NO.

Let's look at some hubs, here:

CO - IAH
DL - ATL

These are essentially the only two that do NOT have a problem with one another. One is huge, the other is FREAKIN' ENORMOUS.

CO - CLE
DL - CVG

Does it really make sense to have two mid-sized hubs around 200 miles apart? Hint - US did it with PIT and PHL. How well did THAT work?  Nuts

CO - EWR
DL - JFK

Hmm. Two hubs/focus cities...TWENTY MILES APART. Lovely. Both of which have or are undergoing major expansions/renovation. Maybe it's time to re-think the former PA WorldPort? Then again, Terminal C at EWR can't handle both carriers' operations.

So what do we do - operate two competing facilities? Or build a billion dollar high-speed rail link between the two just for connecting passengers?  Insane


So, in a CO/DL merger, we've killed at least two hubs. CLE/CVG and EWR/JFK. We've also got GDS issues, FF program issues, powerplant issues for many fleet types (PW at DL and RR for CO).

Oh, and that little part about $20 BILLION IN DEBT that DL is carrying, of course.

Did I miss anything?  Big grin


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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:52 am

I believe NW still has the right to block any acquisition of CO, even tho' CO bought back the stake it sold to NW in the 90's. Unless I'm mistaken, CO and NW are in a 20 year codeshare agreement.

There are no mergers among the legacy carriers that make sense in todays market. Too much overlap, and nobody has the financial strength to pull it off. I believe we are more likely to see mergers among the LCC's before we'll see any mergers of the legacy carriers.
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:55 am

yeah, well it may be a rough idea...but it got some people thinking.

The PA Worldport may not have been a bad idea....but why would you consolidate hubs? Who would fly LHR - NRT via JFK? Latin America is where the money is.........but you may have to close CLE...

Keep the RR powerplants for the international 757s and get rid of the rest. The 767400ERs and the 767-300ERs are a duh....that's a great mix. The FA's won't have to learn new doors and Pilots know the same aircraft. The only personel issue is seniority, but the aircraft-type synergy makes that a non-issue. The merger is a proportional one.
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:40 am

Keep the RR powerplants for the international 757s and get rid of the rest

CO has 50 B-757s, all RR powered. When you suggest a merged CO/DL simply "get rid of the rest..."

...do you mean get rid of all ONE HUNDRED TWENTY ONE of DL's B-757s?  Nuts

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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:43 am

I think he meant keep all of the ETOPS rated International RR powered 757s (I have no clue how many) and get rid of the rest of the RR 757s.
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:48 am

I was always opposed to this possibilty and I am thankful each and every day that this marrige did not come to pass. In light of what is happening to DL as of late, CO is much better on it's own.

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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:06 pm

CO might be better served to wait for a possible asset sale or liquadation of US's operations at DCA, LGA or even Charlotte.

They could get a better deal for those assets under the right circumstances then they would from merging with Delta and assuming their $20 Billion Dollar debt.

Instead of Atlanta they can get Charlotte, now while Charlotte is by no means Atlanta nor a large O&D marke it might work well structured in a similar way to CO's CLE operation, lots of ERJs to everywhere all over the Southeast.

CO already has the right to occupy the US Airways terminal at LGA since they're the "technical" owners, purchasing the LGA slots and Shuttle would offer them the same advantage as a DL merger except assuming the debt.

CO could purchase parts of US and rehire their own furloughed pilots and pull some of their own aircraft from back out of the desert or make short term lease deals for 737NGs untill they could procure enough through their own order log with Boeing, the ERJs are no problem as CO has a huge order with Embraer which would have no problem expediting.
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:28 pm

I believe NW still has the right to block any acquisition of CO, even tho' CO bought back the stake it sold to NW in the 90's. Unless I'm mistaken, CO and NW are in a 20 year codeshare agreement.

I sincerely doubt DL would be the one buying out CO  Big grin
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:40 pm

looks alot more realistic with the rumors floating that DL will file Chp 11 soon...


to be continued.

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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:50 pm

A DL/CO merger at this point in time? Not gonna happen......DL is trying to figure out how to avoid bankruptcy, so it is niether in the position to acquire CO and CO is certainly not interested in buying DL's problems or taking on it debt.

Airlines are working very hard to try to figure out how to become and stay profitable in this difficult enviornment, all of the legacy carriers in the US still have their problems, and just because CO, NW and AA at the moment seem to be doing better than DL, US, and UA does not mean that ALL of the airlines are still trying to figure out a way to simply survive (never mind merging).....none of the carriers have yet to show a significant and consistent quarterly profit. All of the airlines have labor issues to contend with, pension obligations to consider, and in many cases have deferred fleet renewal programs.....so talk of mergers and buy outs is pure fiction at this time. Even the LCCs, such as media darling JetBlue, is sending out signals that all is not perfect: the Florida hurricanes have greatly impacted JetBlue's operations and financial results and all of those $49 tickets may not have been a good thing.
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:24 pm

Any merger attempt at this point by any airline in the US is crazy EXCEPT for 1 I can think of: Southwest buys US Airways and transitions them the an LCC to give SW a greater East Coast presence. It makes sense because SW gets 2 new hubs, lots of routes and they can dismatle the USAIR cost structure at will.

The only problem is the number of new AC types SW would have to deal with by selling them off or returning them to lessors.
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:31 pm

In all honesty a merger right now for any major carrier does not make a whole lot of sense. Shortly I believe one major is going to leave the sky's and at that time the others will pick off the best pieces and leave the rest to rot. This is unfortunate for those working for the one(s) that go under, though in the long run it will help the industry grow stronger.
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:38 pm

What will it be after the "merger"? Delta or Continental
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:56 pm

What will it be after the "merger"? Delta or Continental

Since CO would most likely be the one buying, I'm going to say Continental. Then again, they could keep the Delta brand (Like AF is keeping the KLM brand but still owns them). It may help keep some loyal customers to DL while down playing the image of a super-sized airline.
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:33 pm

I sure hope the name Continental does not disappear. It is the finest airline we have, and I think its the most popular among Europeans, and South Americans.
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:43 pm

"Seniority Integration" just kills airlines. Bad blood in the cockpit for decades - literally. Look all the way back to PanAm and National, even. The legacy carriers have enough problems - merging with each other is a headache they don't need.
Now, outright selling of assets (gates, routes, aircraft) to another, stronger legacy carrier, THAT is believable...
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:57 am

CO will take one look at DL's financial situation and say 'no way.' CO will not want to buy up an airline that is up to its ears in debt.
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:20 am

"Any merger attempt at this point by any airline in the US is crazy EXCEPT for 1 I can think of: Southwest buys US Airways and transitions them the an LCC to give SW a greater East Coast presence. It makes sense because SW gets 2 new hubs, lots of routes and they can dismatle the USAIR cost structure at will."

That's quite possibly the CRAZIEST merger proposal I've heard yet! If, and I stress the IF, WN were to pursue this folly, here's what they'd get:

1. A total destruction of their business model.
2. The oh so happy, oh so unproductive US employees
3. Two hubs, which would be their FIRST true hubs
4. A fleet almost completely at odds with their own, and the costs that come along.
5. Regional carriers

Internal growth would be less costly than buying something that they are going to sell any way. Any attempt to merge with US would KILL WN.
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:22 am

What will it be after the "merger"? Delta or Continental

That's easy. "Deltanental."  Big grin
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:38 am

It should be more like denial!
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:15 am

I like Continelta.

In a perfect world, DL and CO would fit together pretty well (their express carriers, on the other hand...), but we aren't in a perfect world. CO is too smart to take on a dead weight like DL.
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:38 am

FriendlySkies:

I sincerely doubt DL would be the one buying out CO

...and I highly doubt the inverse would occur either.

For what I believe to be an accurate assessment of why this won't happen, go back toward the top and read EA CO AS's analysis...pretty right on. It would be too much of a logistical/financial pain in the a$$ and would likely yield minimal benefits in relation to the costs.

Since CO would most likely be the one buying, I'm going to say Continental.

DL may be in financial trouble, but it's still a little soon to say that, I think.  Smile
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:05 am

Don't do it Gordon, you know better than that. Don't listen to the voices in your head.
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:14 am

I don't happen to think that any of you are very funny. You are making light of some very serious issues. I guess if we were talking about your company, and your livelihood, you might understand.

I am so tired of the speculation and Monday Morning Quarter backing that goes on here, especially when most of the participates either don't work in the airline industry or even have a job.

I can't wait to see how this all falls together. All of you might be surprised to see the "Widget" doing it's thang many years from now. We are not as helpless as we may seem. We will rise to fight another day.

Been There. Done That...to be continued on behalf of the 60,000 Delta Employees!
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:14 am

I fell stupid but I think it was before my time, What was/is PA World port? From the sounds it is probably a large international hub. Any backround info is appreciated.
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:36 am

I fell stupid but I think it was before my time, What was/is PA World port? From the sounds it is probably a large international hub

Don't feel stupid - it's not that widely known. Pan American World Airways called their large international hub facility at JFK the "Worldport." DL inherited this facility when they purchased PA's European route system.




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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:42 am

DL may be in financial trouble, but it's still a little soon to say that, I think.

Read the rest of my post  Big grin
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:58 am

"Erm - NO."


EA CO AS,

Erm - No again. It would be obvious which hubs would go. CLE would be closed in favor of DL's CVG hub, in January, CVG will have over 620 daily flights, that's a lot! EWR would be kept, as JFK isn't even a hub for DL. As I previously stated, ATL, IAH, EWR, CVG, and SLC would be the hubs, in order from largest to smallest.

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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:52 am

Jumpseat70:

I am so tired of the speculation and Monday Morning Quarter backing that goes on here, especially when most of the participates either don't work in the airline industry or even have a job.

Don't be so oversensitive. BTW, how do you know who has jobs and who doesn't? lol

Since none of us (including yourself) are recognized industry experts, Monday Morning Quarterbacking is all that goes on here...so, if you're as tired of it as you say, you should probably find a different website to wax elitist in.

All of you might be surprised to see the "Widget" doing it's thang many years from now. We are not as helpless as we may seem. We will rise to fight another day.

Now, this I agree w/...DL's not anywhere near dead yet, unlike US...but it's interesting to play w/ hypotheticals.
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:15 am

DearATLHomecmh,

Please don't tell me how to feel. I'm not oversensitive. I'm protective of the company that writes my paycheck.

And I'll stay right here okay and continue to read the comments.

And when anyone is talking about my job, my family and my airline...I'll wax all I want. Thank you!

And somehow, I think that with 35 years in the airlines, one as a F/A the other as an agent, with a Commerical License, that somehow makes me closer to an expert than some.

I thank you for your opinion...but I'll stick with mine.
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RE: DL CO Merger

Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:27 am

EA CO AS,

Erm - No again. It would be obvious which hubs would go. CLE would be closed in favor of DL's CVG hub, in January, CVG will have over 620 daily flights, that's a lot! EWR would be kept, as JFK isn't even a hub for DL. As I previously stated, ATL, IAH, EWR, CVG, and SLC would be the hubs, in order from largest to smallest.


Jeremy,

I appreciate your insight, but you're forgetting one thing - closing a hub isn't just a matter of ferrying aircraft and ground equipment from one place to another. There is a LOT to deal with, all of which costs a LOT of money.

You have THOUSANDS of employees to deal with, plus covenants with local civic and business leaders, possible violations of agreements with foreign governments (depending on the routes affected from that hub), etc.

Now factor in the loss of contracted business to various large local employers, charities, and the like - it's not a pretty picture.

It's impossible to simply look at CVG and CLE and say, "CVG has more daily flights, so OBVIOUSLY they'd close CLE!" There are far-reaching implications to take into consideration, such as the local infrastructure, ability to support expanded flight ops, even local weather patterns!

And it doesn't work that way with the JFK/EWR argument either. DL paid a pretty penny for PA's European division. The majority of what they bought didn't come in the form of aircraft, ground equipment, or even the terminal. They paid for pre-negotiated route authorities with sovereign nations, routes that can't simply be picked up and moved to EWR just because the new owner happens to like that facility over JFK.

I know it seems simple on paper, but believe me - it only seems that way.

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RE: DL CO Merger

Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:06 am

there was this rumor i want to say about the time of the AA/TWA merger and talks of that US/UA merger about a mega merger between NW/CO/DL.

At that time I was thinking WOW, although I hate mergers its better than an airline completely going to hell like Eastern and Pan Am... I know some people think they are cool because they might have the chance of seeing an A320 in DL colors or a 737NG in NW colors... I'll admit, I was that way when I was younger seeing a NW DC-9 for the first time after the NW/Republic merger or seeing Continental 747s with red meatballs after the People Express merger.

I am beginning to think that Russia has more airlines than the US now and just a little over 10 years ago they just had one. If airlines keep merging we are going to have Ameroflot.

Once again, a merger is better than a total disappearance of a company like Pan Am, Eastern and more recently Vanguard, National.

If Northwest, Delta, and Continental had merged with that 1970s-80s mentality you would see...

737-200
737-300
737-500
737-700
737-800
737-900
747-200
747-400
757-200
757-300
767-200
767-300
767-400
DC-9
DC-10
MD-80
MD-90
A319
A320
A330

Of course that is the biggest clusterf*** of aircraft you can see in a fleet...

This is what the fleet would more likely look like if the three were to merge...

737-700
737-800
737-900
747-400
757-200
757-300
767-300
767-400
777-200

RJ fleet

several CRJ-200s and 700s
maybe Chataqua would pick up the COEX ERJs and still fly as a DL Connection carrier out of Florida


You could kiss every Northwest aircraft except for the 747-400 goodbye. The 757s wouldnt fit in with the rest of the fleet. CO and DL have more 737NGs than Northwest has Airbuses so the Airbuses would be sold off. You want to get rid of the Northwest DC-9s? Here's the solution, a merger... a NW/CO/DL combination wont want to keep those ancient gas guzzlers... oh yeah and you can kiss all non NG 737s goodbye too. This wouldn't be some 1200 aircraft company, they would still stay around 500 aircraft. Tons of people would lose jobs, hubs would close... it wouldnt be something huge, just look at AA/TWA. What did AA keep from TWA? A bunch of MD-80s, thats about it. Do you think STL will still have AA mainline in it other than a few flights to MIA, ORD and DFW 2 years from now? probably not.

This is what would be left of the NW/CO/DL hub network if they merged

You can guarantee there would be a west coast hub, the three of them might do LAX.

SLC becomes an RJ hub, not much mainline... most mainline moved to MSP.
CVG goes pretty much all RJ and mainline moves to DTW and EWR.
JFK moves all Atlantic ops to already overcrowded EWR.
ATL stays the same
IAH stays open...

Here is your mainline hub network if NW/CO/DL were to merge... its not that pretty.

ATL - #1 hub
DTW- no reason other than a nice paid for new building, but makes for a good Transatlantic transfer hub and a good east to west coast connection hub kind of like today. Takes a lot of CVG mainline ops too
MSP- takes in the SLC mainline ops, another east to west connection hub
EWR- Transatlantic point to point hub with some transfer to east coast airports
LAX- Trans Pacific hub
IAH- Mexico/south America connections


RJ hubs:

CVG
SLC

completely closed:

DFW
CLE
MEM
JFK

I told you it wouldnt be pretty...

but I digress...

For the last 4 years on these boards I have seen probably about every possible Legacy carrier merger scenerio

AA/UA
NW/UA
DL/US etc...

some make no sense at all like the DL/US merger scenario
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:50 am

maybe Chataqua would pick up the COEX ERJs and still fly as a DL Connection carrier out of Florida

That would require a separate transaction for the purchase of ExpressJet, which is legally a separate entity from CO - they wouldn't just automatically be part of a deal involving CO.
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RE: DL CO Merger

Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:53 am

Well, if there was one thing Carl Icahn did that benefited TWA besides leaving them, it was purchasing Ozark Air, an excellent strategy in my opinion...he is quoted saying..."We hope to combine two losers to create one profitable carrier." Maybe a DL/US merger would do just this  Insane

However, I have a hard time understanding why DL would want to buy US...first of all, they are Boeing loyal, and US Airways is Airbus for the most part...in addition, US Airways' Boeing 757s are Rolls-Royce powered, DL's are PW-powered....lastly, would U.S. Airways' PIT and PHL hubs be profitable for Delta, since apparently they are not doing U.S. Airways much good?
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RE: DL CO Merger

Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:37 am

Jumpseat70:

Once again, your continued hypersensitivity amuses me. This isn't a meeting of chief financial and managerial elements of Delta and Continental, threatening to make decisions that will take food off your table. It's an open forum to discuss "What would happen if..."

This website is made up largely of enthusiasts--not "experts." We can play w/ hypotheticals all day if we please.

And somehow, I think that with 35 years in the airlines, one as a F/A the other as an agent, with a Commerical License, that somehow makes me closer to an expert than some.

Congratulations. Unfortunately, flashing credentials doesn't impress me much. Using that jaded logic, I could claim that b/c I fought in Iraq and received campaign medals and numerous personal decorations, your opinion about Iraq (or the opinions of anyone who hasn't served there) doesn't matter and that you should keep your mouth shut.

But, I don't feel that way. And I would never say that. B/C you have a right to your own views, even if they're hypothetical.

And you should be using your industry experience to educate, rather than for futile attempts to intimidate! For shame.


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Jumpseat70
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RE: DL CO Merger

Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:25 am

DearATLhomeCMH,

A. I am not hypersensitive...just sensitive. It seems the only people who hypothesize are the ones with nothing to lose, little knowledge, no experience and everything to muse over.

B. I "flashed" my credentials because of your comment earlier saying that "none of us" were experts.

C. I use my extensive airline experience to try and educate people like you who seem to know it all.

And lastly, not only do I dislike your edgy disrespect, I disagree with your opinions.

So that is my opinion and you may place it anywhere you chose. Preferably where it is tight and dark.
"Up, Up and away with TWA"
 
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RE: DL CO Merger

Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:57 am

Jumpseat70:

I use my extensive airline experience to try and educate people like you who seem to know it all.

lol Actually, its funny how I din't claim to be a know it all...just an enthusiast.

So that is my opinion and you may place it anywhere you chose. Preferably where it is tight and dark.

Wow, you're certainly a classy gal. Maybe I'll do that...and I'll surely think about you when I do.
"The most terrifying words in the Engligh language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"-Ronald Reagan