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Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:04 am

I guess they primarily fly between the factories at Hamburg EDHI and Toulouse. How often do they go? Where else? How many Belugas are there? Is Airbus Industries the only operator or are there other commercial users?

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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:10 am

IIRC there are 6.

Airbus Industrie (not "Industries) is the only operator but I'm sure if you want one they can build it for you.

Apart from the Airbus uses, they are chartered out for outsize cargoes. IIRC the Beluga (A300-600ST) has the largest circular cargo hold in the world or something like that.

The Belugas replaced the Super Guppies, which were, quite ironically, modified Boeings. One of the main advantages is that reattaching the nose of the Guppies took several hours.
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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:12 am

I think they´re 5 of them now and they flies between Toulouse - Finkenwerder - Filton - España (dont know where). Have I forgot any?

No other operator.

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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:13 am

Every time I go and see my friend in Chester, in the UK, I see them landing nearby to collect wings from the BAe factory.
 
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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:15 am

Apart from the Airbus uses, they are chartered out for outsize cargoes. IIRC the Beluga (A300-600ST) has the largest circular cargo hold in the world or something like that.
Would the AN-224 be bigger in terms of circular cargo?

The Belugas also fly whenever there is a problem with an Airbus plane and a replacement is needed. There were rumors that a Beluga landed at LGA to assist a broken AC 320-family plane.

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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:26 am

I've seen them often at AMS as well. Must have been a cargo charter I asume.

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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:34 am

They have industry in Chester? That is one of the richest places in the UK, and also one of the most restrictive councils
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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:41 am

Would the AN-224 be bigger in terms of circular cargo?

I don't think so. The An-225 and An-124 may have more spacious cargo holds, but IIRC the diameter of the holds is less. The width may be greater.

The Beluga is pretty specialized for airplane fuses, so you can see the need for accomodating circular cargo.

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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:43 am

The Antonovs have a higher max load weight, but in terms of "space", the Beluga is bigger.
 
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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:44 am

As a matter of fact, which are the "Airbus factories", i.e. the factories that produce parts that necessitate a visit by Belugas? I know of Hamburg, Toulouse, Getafe, Chester, Filton, also I believe Nantes - which others? Bremen?
 
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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:02 pm

Solnabo: "I think they´re 5 of them now and they flies between Toulouse - Finkenwerder - Filton - España (dont know where). Have I forgot any?"

As Mozart mentioned, in Spain the field used is Getafe near Madrid.
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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:25 pm

Hi everybody,

there are five Belugas (A300-608ST is the official type):

F-GSTA c/n 655
F-GSTB c/n 751
F-GSTC c/n 765
F-GSTD c/n 776
F-GSTF c/n 796 operated in white c/s

These five Belugas operate from the following airports on a regular basis to collect the parts at the final assembly lines at Hamburg and Toulouse: Hamburg (XFW), Bremen, Toulouse, Getafe, Chester, Filton and Nantes.

They occasionally also operate ad-hoc charter flights to other airports if their special and unique service is required.


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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:41 pm

the Belugas fly to Beauvais for the nose of the A380 (built in Meaulte)
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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:42 pm

Bremen and Nates - are those the civil pax airports of BRE and NTE, or do the Belugas go to Lemwerder (XLW/EDWD) and St. Nazaire (SNR/LFRZ, where I believe there is an Airbus factory)?
 
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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:49 pm

Airbus has a website for its Super Belugas that gives details of the 'external' flights they carry out (an eclectic mix!)

http://www.airbustransport.com/
 
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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:56 am

"They have industry in Chester? That is one of the richest places in the UK, and also one of the most restrictive councils"

Actually, the Airbus site at Broughton is just outside of Chester and is actually in North Wales. The airport that the site is built on is Hawarden Airport, but as Chester is the biggest town/city nearby and has more recognition, it is generally used to describe its location.

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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:29 am

The Beluga flies to EDDW, the main pax airport. Comes here three times a week, usually over noon.

Flights to Nantes are St. Nazaire afaik.

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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:53 pm

Interestingly, I found this on the A.net info page about the Beluga (http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=19):

A design study of a similarly configured A340, the A340ST Mega Transporter, to carry A3XX components is underway.

Anybody have more info on this?
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RE: Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?

Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:27 am

Airbus has a website for its Super Belugas that gives details of the 'external' flights they carry out (an eclectic mix!)
http://www.airbustransport.com/


It would be interesting to see a price list, though Airbus may negotiate each deal individually rather than having a set rate schedule.
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