BestWestern
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EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:38 pm

well, didnt take long... did it?

EUJET have announced that they are dropping SNN DUB immediatly. Apparantly they Expected EI to stop the route, but as EI only operate the route with widebodies on a DUB - SNN -> USA basis this rationale is crazy.


"The decision to introduce the route had been taken on the understanding that Aer Lingus did not plan to continue operating its service on the route. However, EUjet said that it understood this was not in fact the case and apologised to people who had pre-booked on the intended route."

"He added that the company would now bring forward a plan to operate a service to Kent International and would continue to look for additional opportunities out of Shannon."
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RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:55 pm

Is their fleet all F100?
 
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RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:57 pm

How EUjet could not understand that one of the requirements of the continuing US / Ireland bilateral is obliging EI aircraft to operate part empty aircraft from SNN to DUB is beyond belief.

Perhaps they were misled by the over optimistic posts, by some on this BBS, concerning the likely ending of the Shannon stopover rule.
 
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RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:22 pm

I've reduced my survival estimates from 6 months to just after christmas!
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RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:33 pm

To be honest, I didn't even know that they already started own flights. Indeed quite stupid to fly DUB-SNN...

Regarding BestWestern's survival estimates: they should make some money wet-leasing some of their Fokker 100s to airlines like V-Bird, Volare, Air Luxor and Germanwings(?), so I don't see them disappear that quickly.
 
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RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:52 pm

Except that V-Bird and Air Luxor probably wont survive the winter either!
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RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:57 pm

Is their fleet all F100?

Yes, they operate five Fokker 100s.

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    RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

    Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:59 pm

    Have they started the Manston-Madrid route yet? I was thinking of trying that soon.
     
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    RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

    Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:06 am

    What is really curious is whether they will succeed out of 'Kent International'

    I find it unlikely but you never know. I will not be surprised if they go bust in January.

    Meanwhile, as an aside thought... in August Norwegian Air Shuttle announced that they have more than doubled their losses. I predict they will go bust this winter too. Scandinavia has always been a hostile environment for LCCs. Goodjet went, Flying Finn went, and the big boys Finnair and SAS are both in trouble.. because they are competing on each others' turf too much.
     
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    RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

    Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:18 am

    Their main business they destroyed themself by simply dont care about clients. They almost destroyed the business of V-Bird and simply don`t care.

    Germanwings did not extend the lease and tour operators complaining about them a lot and don`t want to fly with them in the future.

    The president of the company state he is former Ryanair head. ha ha Now the question why he has left Ryanair ?!? Of course because he did not get paid right as executive manager of FR  Wink/being sarcastic Now he is running an airline into deep problems and again the game with the "Care of Passengers".

    A great story about a few airlines which has ceased operations because of him, simply follow the website of EUjet to realize it.

    Even if Debis Air Finance or Daimler Chrysler will continue to support this great money loosing venture, EUjet will play with the name and reliability of its strong shareholders in the end and I guess they need in the end to compensate passengers.

    He he I want to see this story in the newspapers:
    A Daimler Chrysler cross owned airline company cease operations


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    RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

    Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:45 am

    Have they started the Manston-Madrid route yet? I was thinking of trying that soon.

    Check http://www.eujet.com
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    FinnWings
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    RE: EU Jet Starts Cutting Routes

    Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:00 am

    Ndebele wrote:
    they should make some money wet-leasing some of their Fokker 100s to airlines like V-Bird, Volare, Air Luxor and Germanwings(?),


    If I recall right EU jet actually wet leased some of their F100s to Germanwings for a short time during this summer.

    Angelairways wrote:
    Scandinavia has always been a hostile environment for LCCs. Goodjet went, Flying Finn went, and the big boys Finnair and SAS are both in trouble.. because they are competing on each others' turf too much.


    You are almost correct, but just a little correction if you don't mind... Scandinavia is really a hostile market for LCCs, but what comes to major airlines only SAS is in trouble not Finnair. Finnair has done profits or only a very minor losses since 9/11 and they even have renewed half of their fleet during the period. Finnair doesn't basically even have loans at all! However, during the same time SK has been struggling with enormous losses, unfortunately...

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