ckfred
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AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:20 am

An AA MD-80 departing ORD for PHL has returned to ORD after suffering an engine fire in the No.1 engine. All 3 network affiliates in Chicago, 2,5, and 7 are covering the event.

It appears that the fire caused chunks of the engine cowling to come off, and based on information from a news chopper, one or more of the chunks landed in a park near ORD.

The plane landed on 32L, and is sitting on a taxiway. The passengers have disembarked via a set of stairs brought up to the L1 door.
 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:24 am

The plane is tail number N253AA.
 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:27 am

Supposely it was a bird strike, since they found a dead bird by some of the debris. They are showing shots of the left engine, and it looks like there is a hole in the engine.
 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:31 am

Here is a link to the what happened. They have pictures of the airplane on the ground.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/091604_ns_ohare.html


 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:32 am

is this the AA M80?

Ship # N253AA


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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:33 am

nope it's N453AA, my apologies
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:41 am

here is local CBS news (Channel 2) link to some pics

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_260154812.html
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:46 am

Here is the ABC News

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/


and NBC News


http://www.nbc5.com/index.html
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:57 am

Here is the latest news as of 4PM this afternoon... from the Chicago Tribune.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040916plane,0,4327525.story?coll=chi-newsbreaking-hed
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:00 am

Here's the Chicago Tribune story:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040916plane,0,4327525.story?coll=chi-newsbreaking-hed
 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:03 am


Looks like the plane landed on 9R not 32L as mentioned earlier....

 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:01 am

Looks like the plane landed on 9R not 32L as mentioned earlier....  Insane

Who gives a hoot if it landed on 9R or 32L or 22R or 14R. What's important is that it didnt land on Golf Mill Mall or someplace like that and that everyone's safe.
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:29 am

I give a hoot. I like detail. 32L on the arrival. Now which runway did it take off on?
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:42 am

I *HATE HATE HATE* news coverage of aviation events. The CBS 2 story was terrible, and the reporter from ABC 7 was only slightly better. DO SOME RESEARCH SO-CALLED 'journalists'. They make it sound as if it's a huge undertaking to fly an MD-80 on one engine.
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:06 am

Dan Rather just found documents proving that George Bush was involved in the engine failure and that the bird may have been planted as a coverup...

Sorry, all you journalists out there deserve it!TC
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:04 am

Actually, I thought the Channel 2 coverage was ok. Jim Tilmon, who does weather and science stories is a retired AA captain, and his son is a pilot with US. He usually makes the other reporters look like a bunch of idiots.

The only journalist who handles aviation stories well is Lester Holt. His father was an Air Force mechanic.
 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:11 am

They make it sound as if it's a huge undertaking to fly an MD-80 on one engine.

It is when that other engine is damaged as well, as this one appears to be (looks like there's damage to both engines to me, though #1 is completely fried).

Must have gone through a pretty big flock of birds.
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:01 am

Sorry, I think it WAS 253AA, not 453AA.
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:09 am

Jim Tilmon is awesome. He is very knowledgeable. I was on a AA flight from
DFW to ORD with him, he was a passenger.

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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:15 am

A couple of the pictures on CBS' site show it as N253AA.
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:20 am

Ok, this is spooky! I flew PHL-ORD last night (9/15/04)! Our flight (AA Flt#1569) was delayed due to ATC traffic, and I ended up landing in ORD at about 11:30 PM CDT instead of the scheduled 7:14 PM CDT.

I didn't get the reg# of the plane, but can anyone in the know tell me if this was the same bird?

Wow....
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:32 am

hmmm, very interesting this incident...
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:16 am

Glad to hear no one was hurt. Must have been scary to be a passenger on that flight.

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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:24 am

Good thing the MAD-DOGS are a stable aircraft. Great job on the crews part!
Thank God everyone is ok.



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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:36 am

This is why these pilots get paid the big bucks and why flight training is so extensive. Excellent job to those pilots who safely brought those passengers/crew and aircraft back home safely. As for the bird(s), well im sure it didnt feel a thing.
 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:23 pm

I *HATE HATE HATE* news coverage of aviation events. The CBS 2 story was terrible, and the reporter from ABC 7 was only slightly better. DO SOME RESEARCH SO-CALLED 'journalists'. They make it sound as if it's a huge undertaking to fly an MD-80 on one engine.

The weatherman on CBS 2 is a retired captain from AA and his stoties he does about aviation are good. Some of the other ones use different aircraft models and engine diagrams and it's so silly that some people don't know that's the wrong engine for that type of plane. Mabye they should take their $10 and use it towards a aircraft model. Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:12 pm

The first report says it landed on a taxiway - CRAZY!!
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:20 pm

My father flew AA 1941 PHL-ORD today on an MD80. When i overheard something on the local news i heard the words "American Airlines", "chicago", "philadelphia" "landed safely" i almost had a heart attack
my dad did call me from the airport letting me know his flight was 30 minutes late departing PHL. I knew he would be flying an MD-80, so i really got frightened when i heard the news.

Luckily he was not on that flight, i believe it was an earlier flight that had the problem
 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:58 pm

During the brief local news coverage of this incident in the local PHL news, they were interviewing the passengers who had been on the flight and had arrived on a later flight.....one thing I found interesting is that they said only one person in the whole original flight did not reboard a subsequent flight to PHL. I found that interesting, thought it might be more. Regardless, they said that person took the train....poor schlepp, he/she's probably somewhere around Pittsburgh right now with 10 hrs. to go!

Bravo to the pilots for gettin' 'er done.
 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:24 pm

I was number 8 for take off on runway 32 left from t-10. I couldn't hear any emergency because tower freq, was 132.7 instead 120.75. The only thing that we saw was a huge transit of emergency vehicles and they request more than 8 airplanes to go around because airport equipment were checking runway for debris.
I request information to swissport and they said tower informed no emergency.
when we were clear of the traffic ahead, a united A-320 we saw the American MD-80 parked on J taxi way.
 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:42 pm

USA Today is reporting it was a goose that was sucked through the engine. I'm no expert on birds, but I'm pretty sure that a goose is a good-sized bird.
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:06 am

Who gives a hoot if it landed on 9R or 32L or 22R or 14R. What's important is that it didnt land on Golf Mill Mall or someplace like that and that everyone's safe.

Yeah of course it landed safely. Considering the fact that pilots train extensively on engine-out take-off procedures, the chances of the plane "landing on Golf Mill Mall or someplace like that" are pretty slim. Actually I think this whole incident was a bit overblown by the media. Kinda like you jackass response.  Insane

To answer someone's question, the aircraft departed on 4L and came around to land on 9R, exiting the runway and deplaning pax on the parallel taxiway.








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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:21 am

I haven't seen a report indicating from which the flight departed, but the FAA spokesman said it landed on 32L.

Also, based on the location of where the aircraft was parked relative to Concourse C, it had to be 32L.

Add to the mix that 32L is the longest runway at ORD, it makes sense to land on 32L. If the plane departed either 4L or 9L, which would make sense for an eastbound departure, it's a very short loop to the right to line up with 32L. To land on 9R means flying out to Schaumburg, then turn 180 degrees to start the approach.

Yesterday, the wind was blowing from the north, so why put an aircraft flying on 1 engine in a crosswind for a landing?
 
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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:30 am

Yeah of course it landed safely. Considering the fact that pilots train extensively on engine-out take-off procedures, the chances of the plane "landing on Golf Mill Mall or someplace like that" are pretty slim. Actually I think this whole incident was a bit overblown by the media. Kinda like you jackass response.

Of course, I knew it landed safely. All I was trying to point out was how inconsequential it is as to which runway it actually landed on. The reference to "landing on Golf Mill Mall" was a feeble (and from the looks of it, a failed) attempt at humor and a sarcastic reference to the type of media coverage one would expect from this type of thing!!

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RE: AA MD-80 Incident At ORD

Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:34 am

On the report from http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/today/sky.htm which stated, "One goose believed to have died".

DUH! Yeah, ever heard a bird survived being sucked through an engine!?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

MD-80 engine - what a big garbage disposal for goose!