Floris
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KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:43 am

KL 605/606 AMS-SFO is a B777 today. Until yesterday it used to be an MD11. Is this a change for just today, or a permanent change?
 
spl
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:16 am

Schedule for the next few days:

18-09-2004 will be MD-11 registration PH-KCB
19-09-2004 will be MD-11 registration PH-KCF
20-09-2004 will be B777, registration PH-BQB
21-09-2004 will be MD-11 registration unknown yet

It seems the Friday and Monday are flown by the B777 and the rest of the days a MD-11.


Groeten Martijn
 
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:25 pm

Sure wish we could see some of that MD-11 & B777 action here at IAH.

SPL: Could you provide any info on what Reg for KL 663 would be in advance?? Say this Sun. (Only operates on Fri & Sun) Just trying to spot PH-BZI or PH-BZK. Thx  Smile

--Nate
 
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:01 pm

Last time I spotted at SFO the KLM flight was a 777 as well, and that was in July.
 
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:11 pm

SPL:

How do you know which planes will be used (with reg.number)?
And is this also possible to see with other airliners?

Thanks,

Tjap
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:18 pm

I spotted @ SFO a couple of weeks ago...I saw KLM 777 depart from runway 1R. That was awsome site to see!!



Still want to see a 747 take off from there!!
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:39 pm

How many 777's does KLM have now?

UAL747-600
 
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:02 pm

KL ordered 10 777-200's. They already got 7 and the other 3 will arrive between now and January 2005.

Tjap
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:38 am

Ual747-600:

I did some more research for you: the reg.numbers/names:

PH-BQA "Albert Plesman"
PH-BQB "Borobudur"
PH-BQC "Chichen-Itza"
PH-BQD "Darjeeling Railway"
PH-BQE "Epidaurus"
PH-BQF "Ferrara city"
PH-BQG "Galapagos Islands"

On order:
PH-BQH
PH-BQI
PH-BQJ

Don't know sure about Hotel, India and Julliet but it looks logical to me!
Don't know anything about the names, maybe somebody else can provide some info about this!

Thanks,

Tjap
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:45 am

KLM has been flying the 777 into SFO 3 times a week since October. This just be the first time you noticed it. Its nothing new!

ASSFO
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:42 am

I did actually wind up camcording (it was 16x max-but still close and clear) that take off from 1-R. I wasn't using a tripod, so it was a little shaky (though not too much), and there is a lot of wind noise too (gee, what's new with SFO???), but one can definitely hear the thrust of the 777 beauty and see it roll off 1-R......beauty!!!!!


The only think I need to do is convert it to digital (I was using an old "Hi-8" camcorder-but the footage is very clear))and upload it to some website along with some other footage I have..that being said the KLM 777 take off is defintely the best one I have!!
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:40 am

Jacobin777:

I do not know how to do that BUT I do know that I would love to see that video  Big thumbs up

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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:36 am

Perhaps SPL looked ín one of KLM's airport systems? I see he works at Schiphol in AMS, hence his nickname....

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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:26 pm

Okay Fella's,

From what I know and have seen in the CRS, this winter (Starting oct.31st) KLM will fly the 6 weekly AMS-SFO (daily except Tuesdays) with the MD11 until Jan.30th. Starting Jan.31st they will use the 777 on all the flights! And hopefully, next summer it will be a daily service....

FJWH!

The 3 names you're missing are ....

PH-BQH Hadrian's Wall
PH-BQI Igaucu Park
PH-BQK Kilimajaro Park

I don't think they'll be using the registration PH-BQJ.

Cheers!
Robin
 
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:52 pm

For what reason won't KLM use resgistration PH-BQJ?
 
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:35 am

I chatted with a KLM Regional Manager who was walking around Bayshore Park right by SFO one noon this week and he mentioned KLM is retiring the MD-11s which will go to FedEx.

This info seems to jive with info by AA B777-200.
 
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:12 am

Speedbird2025:

I think it's already too late for you, but I will look tonight at my work which plane will fly the KL663 this Sunday...


FJWH/GlobeTrekker:

Employees of Amsterdam Airport Schiphol have access to the information system CISS (Central Information System Schiphol). It's possible to see all flights from all airlines.


Leamside:

KLM isn't going to get ride of the MD-11 the next years. Till 2012 the MD-11 will fly in KLM's fleet. What's for sure is that KLM will get ride of two B763 by the end of this year. These planes will go back to the leasing company. Which two (registrations) that are, is unknown yet.


Groeten Martijn
 
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:32 am

...talking of KLM B777. Any chances KLM might bring it into MSP instead of their daily MD-11 ??? Would be great to see this plane here !

Thank you to the Dutch Aviation Society....

JP
 
spl
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:28 am

Speedbird2025:

The KL0663 for IAH which left the 19th from AMS is this flight:

KL0663 14:30 14:46 A IAH PL E04 E04 PHBZA 763


Groeten Martijn
 
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:40 am

Thanks SPL. I got a decent shot of 'BZA' today. Was hoping for BZI or BZK. Perhaps next Friday or Sunday. I also sent you another e-mail, so check that. Thanks again  Smile

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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:46 pm

Flyhigh69,

No bluebird 777s anytime soon in MSP. This summer KLM operated a MD11 into MSP, but starting Oct.31st the flight will be shifted to NW, bringing the total to 3 daily NW DC10s. Two of them are actually continuing to Bombay as NW re-starts the second daily AMS-BOM flight!

And fellow country man SPL/Martijn,

Are you sure KLM whil phase out its 763s THIS year? According to the winterschedule the 767s are still planned for flights to Newark, Washington/Dulles, Vancouver, Atlanta, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Cairo, Kuwait, Almaty, Tehran, Abuja, Kano, Malabo, Montreal, Dammam and Doha. Should I go on?
I know the 332s should be arriving next year, but that's gonna take a while, hey!

Robin
 
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:57 pm

SPL,

Did they still not replace CISS? I worked at Schiphol between 1999 and 2001 on the project that was later cancelled to replace CISS, called Fis2000, it never worked out with SwITch.

 
spl
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RE: KLM B777 In SFO Today

Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:49 am

Vunz:

Yep, CISS is still THE flight information system at Schiphol. I know they wasted lots of money with trying to get a better new system, but eventually they made the CISS 3 system! Which we work now with, without any problems by the way!!!

Robin:

The information I got is that two B763's will be returned to the leasing company by the end of this year... But maybe I'am wrong...


Groeten Martijn