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Something to think about.

Mon Jan 18, 1999 12:46 am

From CNN:Enraged Briton Cracks B-747 Window during Flight


LONDON, Jan 16 (Reuters) - A man on board a British Airways jet flying at 35,000 feet went beserk and punched a door window so hard that he smashed the inner protective layer, eyewitnesses and airline officials said on Saturday.

Passengers screamed in terror as the Briton, who appeared to have been drinking heavily, ran amok on Thursday's flight from London to Bangkok. After the man was eventually overpowered the pilot diverted the plane to Delhi where he was offloaded.

A BA spokesman said it was one of the worst cases of air rage the airline had ever seen. "We will not tolerate violent or abusive behaviour on our aircraft," he said, adding that the plane had not been in any danger. The airline sent two security officers to bring him back to London, where he was expected to arrive early on Sunday.

Witnesses said the man became abusive some seven hours into the 12-hour flight, harrassing the woman next to him and then ripping off her headphones and biting them in half.

He was moved to the back of the plane but became more violent, jumping up from his seat and punching one of the windows in the plane's rear door so hard he smashed the plastic inner protective layer and cut his hand badly.

Four members of the cabin crew and four passengers finally overpowered the man, put on handcuffs and tied him up with seat belts before leaving him on the cabin floor.

"He was a risk and was being abusive. The captain of the plane took the decision to divert to Delhi to have him taken off," the spokesman said.

Copyright 1999 Reuters Limited.All rights reserved.

So what does everyone think? Who's fault was this-sure the guy himself was an idiot for getting drunk in the first place, but doesn't some of the blame lie with the crew?
Why did they continue to serve this passenger alcohol, when it was obvious he was getting intoxicated?

All cabin crews are undeniably proffessionals in their field, but they seem to lack common sense when it comes to serving alcoholic beverages. What do you guys think-any air crew out there that have opinions?

RE: Something to think about.

Mon Jan 18, 1999 2:20 am

I think you are wrong for blaming the Crew. People have something called Duty Free that he could be drinking out of and he might of smuggled some aboard the plane. He could have been perfectly fine one minute and then he could flip he might not of had that much to drink and just plain stupid. If any of them thought he was getting drunk they would not have done this. It must be wuiet hard to tell as he would be in his seat probably sleeping so you can not see him wobble around! Well no one was hurt so that is what counts!!
PS That guy must be in a lot of trouble as BA do not stand for behavoir like that. And they will prosicute them to the fullest!!!

RE: Something to think about.

Mon Jan 18, 1999 3:45 am

Personnally, I do not think achochaul (LOL) should be promitted on any flight. It has caused many scary scene's like this all around the world. I think people can wait a few hours. Soda is just fine for most people!!!
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Alkyhol effect increase with alt.

Mon Jan 18, 1999 4:11 am

If all he did was crack the inner window pain there was not any cause for concern as far as depressurising the plane. It is just a piece of plasitic to give you some room between the actual pressure window and passenger. It also prevents wear and tear, scratches ect on the plexiglass window. I assume that he will probably be billed for the maintanice of that aircraft and possibly for the down time.

I wouldn't go about blaming any specific individual at either the airport or on the airplane. It is quite possible that this gentleman wasn't showing any symtoms down on the ground or when the aircraft first took off. The Effects of Alcohol are more pronounce the higher the altitude is. So when the cabin altitude reached 8000 or so that is when he previous consumption kicked in. The Altitude also interferes with the bodies ability to assorb oxygen. One trick I have heard about amoung old skippers was that if a drunk passenger did start to get unruly was to increase the cabin Altitude. Since there is even less air for the Drunk to use general they would fall to sleep.

RE: Something to think about.

Mon Jan 18, 1999 5:18 am

Not only are we responsible for flying the aircraft,
now we must be policemen too??

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