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Who Flew Passengers In Vanguards?

Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:12 am

BEA, Trans-Canada-- did anyone else buy them new? Any other airlines ever fly scheduled passengers (or unscheduled, for that matter)?
 
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RE: Who Flew Passengers In Vanguards?

Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:15 am

Only 2 airlines bought Vanguards new. BEA bought 20 and AC 23. I remember them well in YYZ in the late 60's/early 70's.

Most passed onto cargo operators. Not sure if any were used in pax ops though. I think Merpati might have had 1 pax Vanguard.



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RE: Who Flew Passengers In Vanguards?

Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:24 pm

I seem to recall that Invicta Airways (a small UK carrier in the 60s) operated Vanguards, obviously secondhand ones. Did not one of their Vanguards crash into the Alps with a group of mothers from Bristol on a day's shopping trip to Switzerland aboard?

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RE: Who Flew Passengers In Vanguards?

Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:05 pm

Yes, you are right - an Invicta Vanguard crashed close to Basle airport killing all the women on board - I believe they were from Axbridge near Bristol.
 
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RE: Who Flew Passengers In Vanguards?

Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:54 pm

Merpati in Indonesia most definately operated Vangards. They had at least 3 examples PK-MVF,H & R maybe more.

They were certainly seen in Darwin, NT on a number of occusions. I THINK they operated scheduled services from Kupang in West Timore at one time.

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RE: Who Flew Passengers In Vanguards?

Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:19 pm

In the late 60s my father was a Vanguard Captain for Air Canada, and I went with him on a trip I'll never forget.

We left Toronto at 8pm or so, and flew YYZ-YOW-YUL-YQB-YFC-YSJ-YQM-YHZ-YQY-YQX-YYT!!!! Arriving at St. John's Newfoundland around 9am. A trip like that would not be allowed today with duty restrictions as they are, but what I wouldn't give to fly in a Vanguard on a trip like that now!!!

Incidentally, that night, we flew the same route in reverse. Heck of a way to earn a buck. And today I complain about flying an A320 YYZ-YOW-YYC-LAX during daylight hours!
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RE: Who Is Airfast Indonesia

Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:30 pm

Add PK-MVE in the list of Merpati's Vanguard fleet. If I'm not mistaken, Merpati operated no fewer than 8 different Vanguards during the 12 years of Vanguard operations with MZ, but not more than 3 were ever use at any one time. The last scheduled service was sometimes around 1981-1982.
 
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RE: Who Flew Passengers In Vanguards?

Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:40 pm


Hi!

Some of you might not know but the french charter airline EAS ( Europe Aero Service ) used to fly charter flights with their Vanguards, that actually came from TCA and latter Air Canada, the first livery they used on their Vanguards was basic Air Canada livery with EAS titles. Latter they opted for a full EAS livery that was quite neat.
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