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A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:08 am

Do you think that Spain could handle the A380?If you do, what airport and airline would operate the plane?
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Arniepie
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:28 am

I don't know,... maybe MAD-Tenerife or one of the other Islands.
Just a best guess
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:30 am

I've no doubt Spain will eventually be able to handle A380's, Spain is after all a partner in Airbus. MAD and BCN are obvious candidates for A380 service, can't see other Spanish airports receiving A380 flights from anywhere. As for which airline might want the A380, naturally Iberia comes to mind, but at the moment i don't think IB needs or wants that kind of capacity. It could be a potential future customer, but only for a handful of core routes to South America from Spain.
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:45 am

Now I think of it, maybe it would not be a bad Idea to operate some kind of LCC with the A380 between the Vacation-Island's and Heathrow/Frankfurt/
Amsterdam because a lot of western Europeans have a 2nd house or code-sharing arrangement on 1 of these Islands.
-Baleares
-Canary-islands
Certainly when you know that a lot of these places have only 1 Runway(slot-restriction), have good weather almost all year round (Canary-Islands) and people would certainly book more long weekends if the prices for flying where consistently low enough (only a 4 or 5 hour flight anyway).
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:54 am

If the construction work going on in MEX at the moment includes the construction of a couple of gates that can accomodate the A380, I am sure that IB will seriously consider using an A380 for the MAD-MEX route.
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:04 am

Perhaps in the future

MAD-MIA
MAD-MEX
MAD-GRU
MAD-EZE
MAD-GIG

could support an A380 service.
 
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:08 am

RJ 111

I would add MAD - BOG to the list. Currently IB is only allowed to operate a daily flight on this route due to bilateral agreements in both countries. Sometimes IB has required the 747-200 on the route to cope with demand. If eventually they become monopoly in the route an A380 would be more than justified on it.

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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:49 am

You won't see MAD-MIA 'cause Iberia no longer has a hub in MIA.
You might see MAD-HAV if they do decide to put their hub in HAV.
 
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:52 am

As others said here, I would guess for MAD - EZE as they are some daily widebody flights, and it looks there is plenty demand for that route.
 
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:56 am

I also would think MAD-EZE as the first choice. What about MAD-SCL? demand in that route is not as high as EZE, but it's still quite high
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:21 am

Based on current demand MAD-EZE, MAD-MEX and MAD-MIA in that order, could produce A380 traffic as of today.
 
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 5:39 pm

Airbus CEO in Spain said last April that IB could to reach an agreement with BA to use 2/3 A-380's in a future order of A-380 by BA
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:35 pm


I think that you will see probably 2 A380's being operated in Spain, as it has been stated above, the CEO of IB had announced the possible source for obtaining these a/c, whether on lease part of the year...whatever the perameters of the logistics may be, I believe that MAD-MEX and possibly MAD-EZE would be the only routes that might support them. The high capacity routes to the Canaries will be suficed with the 744's.
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:51 pm


Airports like PMI,LPA and TFS should be ready to handle the A380. By the way, has any German charter airline announced interest on the A380 ?
 
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:22 am

I would add MAD - BOG to the list. Currently IB is only allowed to operate a daily flight on this route due to bilateral agreements in both countries. Sometimes IB has required the 747-200 on the route to cope with demand. If eventually they become monopoly in the route an A380 would be more than justified on it.


I hope they never become a monopoly in that route!.
Although yes, given that condition I think they'd be enough demand for an A380, the big question now is:

Can BOG handle it?
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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:34 am

You might see MAD-HAV if they do decide to put their hub in HAV.

I think HAV (which by the way is not going to be put as hub) is a strong candidate for the A380 even if IB does not start intra-american services from there.

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I hope they never become a monopoly in that route!.

It wouldn't be that easy anyway. The local authorities wouldn't let them.

Can BOG handle it?

The runways can, not sure about the terminal thought. Maybe the external gates, such as C7 (the one that IB currently uses) and C8 can do it.


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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:23 am

It wouldn't be that easy anyway. The local authorities wouldn't let them.


The authorities wouldn't allow it, but I think it's guessing that Avianca for any reason stops servicing that route, if Avianca, for its own means and will, stops servicing it then there's nothing the authorities can do (in theory BOG - LHR, or well, BOG - CCS - LHR for current matters would also have to be served a Colombian carrier...but the truth is other, nothing the authorities can do because the Colombian carrier, for any reasons, just doesn't serve that route any more by their own means and will) . Of course, it's a very fantastic scenario... Avianca deja de ir a Madrid cuando los sapos bailen flamenco.

BTW how did the Air Madrid issue end? (if it has ended yet)

The runways can, not sure about the terminal thought. Maybe the external gates, such as C7 (the one that IB currently uses) and C8 can do it.

That's what I was asking, the terminal itself... because I know the space is quite narrow between gates (even MSFS makes me suffer that hehe).

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RE: A380 In Spain.

Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:30 am

If AV goes bankrupt or something like the Brazilian finding a new "strategy for the business" the AV could go out the route and IB could become monopoly. And there is nothing the Colombian goverment can do about it.

About the gates, it is posible for the A380 to use remote gates for boarding?
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