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AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:09 am

Can anyone share with me experiences on the AA 777 riding in coach class (Atlantic) configuration? I am going MIA - LHR over and then LHR - ORD return in a month and want to know if there really is a legroom difference and service difference on AA compared to other carriers.

I just took a similar trip on the DL 777 (2-5-2) configuration and it was nice, but then again I was seated in row 46 (bulkhead).

Please advise.
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:14 am

Expect 34" of pitch in coach... superior to most transatlantic coach products.

Service is your typical American carrier's service.

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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:58 am

only one response...cmon members...please help me out. Thanks Gigneil so far.
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:03 am

I flew coach FRA DFW in March. It was very comfortable and the service was good. Around 4-5 beverage services (always got the full can) a hot meal and a snack. PTV was great. You should have a wonderful flight!
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:19 am

I've gone STL-LGW last summer, ORD-LHR, ORD-CDG, and JFK-LHR all in coach, and on 777 (cept the flight out of STL was a 763) the leg room is fine and the flights were all great. Had some runway delays at ORD but other than that it was great. Enjoy your flight. Meals are good and hot and I'd always ask for Dr. Pepper and they would load me up with caffiene. PTV was awesome. Check out AA.com to find out your movies.

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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:26 am

I preferred British Airways 3-3-3 configuraton.
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:28 am

Can anyone share with me experiences on the AA 777 riding in coach class (Atlantic) configuration?

It is not guaranteed that you will get a B777 with Atlantic configuration. I have flown many times JFK-LHR-JFK on B777 with Pacific configuration...

I am going MIA - LHR over and then LHR - ORD return in a month and want to know if there really is a legroom difference and service difference on AA compared to other carriers.

I just flew MIA-LHR on AA and I keep loving that aircraft. Try to get 31A or 31J, which have tons of legroom... I fly mostly AA, because of elite status and the global network, and find the service good enough for me. Sometimes I am lucky and get either op-upgrades or oversold flights with vouchers attached... but AA proves to be a good option on most of my flights, so I am a loyal customer.

 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:58 am

Thanks everyone.

Rojo - I have 23J from MIA-LHR and the dreaded 42J on the return. They were the ONLY window seats available. I hope I can change the 42J as I get closer to the date or on the date of departure.

Thanks again.
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:03 am

The RDU-LGW-RDU route is a guaranteed Atlantic 777 configuration.
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:11 am

Regardless of whether it's a 777A or 777P, the coach class is the same, except one has more coach seats than the other. They both feature "More Room Throughout Coach." You really should notice a difference in legroom.
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:23 am

I just did JFK-LHR-JFK on AA last week. Am doing it again twice in the next 9 weeks.

the dreaded 42J on the return

I sat in the Whiplash Zone (the rear of the aircraft is more sensitive to turbulence) both times (42A, 39J) but I like that part of the plane. It tends to be the last to fill up if the flight isn't full. On my way back I had two seats to myself. Whoooo!

Last row (42 on the outside) is very nice on the 777 if you can deal with the decrease in recline. I don't mind and AA has plenty of space anyway. Also you get extra stowage under your own seat and if you have the window you get a bit more room since the fuse curves. And here's the most important bit: since the 777 has a bulkhead behind the last seat, no one can kick you in the back or grab your seat when they stand up/sit down. The line for the crapper tends to be aft by the emergency exit so no noise issue either. Besides, that's why God invented noise cancellation headphones.  Big grin

I know I am in the minority with my preference for the last rows  Big grin For my next 4 flights, I am booked on 42A twice , 41A once, and the last one is still unassigned. Waiting to pounce on a window seat when it becomes available.

The service was decent but on average not really in the same league to LH/SK/AF/BA/VS. I missed the free wine a bit. I bought a glass on the way back but seriously: $5? IMHO they should give the first 2 wines/beers free, then charge for the hard stuff and any additional wine/beer. But that's just me. If you like pizza you get the minipizzas. Ah well.

Still, it's not THAT long so who cares? If I wanted good service and free wine I would have paid for F or Biz.

The screens are small, but that's fine. Movie selection is very limited even compared to other companies with this generation of IFE. A few more would have been nice. Also on the way back the system was frelled, and most screens would work for about 1-2 minutes, then dissolve into static. Turn off screen, turn on screen, watch for 2 minutes, rinse, repeat. Thank goodness for my laptop.

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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:32 am

Rojo....same here.......and I've flown the ORD-LHR route a few times....love the T7 (obviously), and I've never had any problems with AA...their service is good.....31A and 31J are very good seats.......go to

www.seatguru.com or

http://www.aa.com/content/aboutUs/ourPlanes/boeing777.jhtml

and you can see the seat configuration there.

I usually bring my own meals (I like home-cooked meals), and I've never had any problems with the FA's too...

I bring my own laptop ..so I can't make an honest judgment/opinion on the PTV's.........
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:37 am

Both Seatguru and the AA site indicate the location of powerports. There are quite a few scattered through Monkey Class.
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:00 am

AA are great in economy. It can be hit-and-miss with the cabin crew at times, but the AA triple 7s offer the most economy class comfort, better than BA, VS, DL, CO, NW, LH, KL.....AA can't be beaten in transatlantic Y, in my opinion!!
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:06 am

AA are great in economy. It can be hit-and-miss with the cabin crew at times, but the AA triple 7s offer the most economy class comfort, better than BA, VS, DL, CO, NW, LH, KL.....AA can't be beaten in transatlantic Y, in my opinion!!


Seatwise I agree. Meal/service wise I dunno. But that's just my opinion too  Big grin
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:12 am

I've flown both LHR-LAX and LHR-JFK on AA777s and found the flights very good and cabin crew attentive. The seats and legroom are good. I suppose the only product that beats it is BA's WT+, but that costs more.
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:08 am

Wow - What responses...thank you so much. I am excited to sit in 42J on the AA 777 now. If a window seat with reduced pitch is all I have to contend with no seat grabbing...I'm set with that.
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:19 am

Wow - What responses...thank you so much. I am excited to sit in 42J on the AA 777 now. If a window seat with reduced pitch is all I have to contend with no seat grabbing...I'm set with that.


You can't all start taking the back rows! That's MY domain!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Seriously though, enjoy your flight. And Row 42 does have the same pitch, just less recline.

[Edited 2004-09-30 01:20:41]
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:19 am

I flew BOS-LHR, and LHR-JFK on an AA Boeing 777...those two flights were the best of my life...cabin was very roomy...seat pitch was excellent, seats were comfortable, service was excellent...all those PTVS  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:21 am

...all those PTVS

All those tiny PTVs  Big grin But definitely much better than none at all.
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:24 am

I for the first time got the oppertunity to sit in the coach class on the 777 Atlantic version on accident i guess you would call it. I, along with my dad gave up our seats up front to two service men returning from Iraq and i actually didnt mind sitting in coach. It was a beautiful flight. I was in row 31 and it was great. No complaints. + if felt good giving up my seat to someone who truely deserved it!
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:26 am

AA's economy is the only trans-Atlantic carrier I would consider. It has far more room than say an SAS343 or BMI332 products.
You would need to pay more for Premium Economy with VS or BA to get more room.
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:45 am

Rojo - I have 23J from MIA-LHR and the dreaded 42J on the return. They were the ONLY window seats available. I hope I can change the 42J as I get closer to the date or on the date of departure.

I don't like windows in the first economy cabin (rows 20-28 B777A) because you have the wing and most of my flights tend get to LHR in peak hours (8am-10am) so you don't have the view of London while the flight gets a hold pattern and starts circling London. If you don't care about this, then your seat is a good economy seat...

As mentioned before, the difference between the B777A (Pacific/Atlantic) and B777B (Atlantic) is the Flagship Suite in F on the B777B and the sleep seats in F for the B777A. Other than more seats in J for the B777A and more in Y for the B777B, there is no difference in the J and Y products...

 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:21 am

I don't like windows in the first economy cabin (rows 20-28 B777A) because you have the wing and most of my flights tend get to LHR in peak hours (8am-10am) so you don't have the view of London while the flight gets a hold pattern and starts circling London.

Rojo - I thought about this too. 41A is still available for me to take going to LHR if I want it, but it is on the left side of the aircraft which means the wrong side of the aircraft to see London in the morning. Most pattens in during the AM are westbound patterns which puts London on the right side of the aircraft. 23J is on the right side of the aircraft, but directly over the wing. At least I could look slightly behind me and the view of the wing to see London as we circle.
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:25 pm

Goomba, it is possible that you may circle around LHR before landing...LHR is one of the most crowded airports in the world...and I recall we had to wait quite some time before landing...we circled around the airport before re-intercepting the course to land....but this was almost 2 years ago (wow, time flies fast Wow!)....I remember we got a good view of London from the left side (where I was sitting)....
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:02 pm

Man, I thought I flew a lot, but Platinum at 13-15? That is impressive
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:27 pm

I've flown AA's 777s across the Atlantic several times and find their coach service to be an excellent product. I apreciate the extra leg room and must say that their seats are more comfortable than those on other carriers. The combination of 777 (favorite airliner to fly on) and AA (more leg room) is outstanding.
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:39 pm

Thrust - I guess it depends on which way you are landing. If you are landing westbound, London will be outside the right window. If eastbound...then to the left.  Smile
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:54 pm

Thrust - I guess it depends on which way you are landing. If you are landing westbound, London will be outside the right window. If eastbound...then to the left.

Not quite. If you are flying eastbound, you will not overfly (central) London at all.
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:02 am

Starlionblue - I suppose it depends on which STAR is being utilized and where the holding pattern is. My original point simply has to do with westbound arrivals to LHR - wherein you will most likely see central London out of the right side of the aircraft.
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:40 am

Agreed. Of course with the holds above London it's pretty likely you will overfly some part of the city some of the time. Unless it's cloudy, which it so often is  Big grin

But flying in on 09R/L you will not have good views of the city from low altitude.
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:16 am

Register another vote for 42J here! I flew in 42J MIA-DFW and had no problems with the location at all.

I too usually prefer the last row for a couple of reasons:

1) No kids (or inconsiderate adults) kicking the back of your seat

2) Close to the lav, so you don't have to waste time standing in line --- I just stay seated until there isn't a line

3) You get to chat with the flight attendants - especially if the back of the plane has a row or two empty and the flight attendants use those rows to relax between meal and beverage services

4) And you get to hear the roar of the engines (well, any seat behind the wing is pretty good for that too).
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:32 am

Hear hear, although with NC headphones on the noise from the engines dissapears  Big grin

Note: While on the 777 it's a great spot, on the 744 the last row is to be avoided at all costs. There is an emergency exit behind it, meaning an open space next to the crapper. So people hang around and talk there. That would be annoying enough, but then they start leaning on your seatback. Swing! ARGH!
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:28 am

Not sure about Heathrow but every time I've ever flown into LGW I've never seen London Central. All you really see are the outskirts/suburbs and the most smog you could ever imagine above any city. I wouldn't base your seat on seeing a city anyways. See it on foot.

I pretty much only fly AA coach to Europe and it's always been solid. Not king-like treatment with gourmet meals, like evidently every European carrier gives you (I call BS on that), but solid. Cabin crew are usually pretty nice and the food is palatable. For me, though, that extra bit of room can't be beat. Get 31A if you can. Window with 3 feet of legroom. 772 is the way to fly.
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:13 am

Not sure about Heathrow but every time I've ever flown into LGW I've never seen London Central.

That's because the approach paths to LGW don't go over central London. This would, if nothing else, make them cross the LHR westbound approaches  Big grin



Not king-like treatment with gourmet meals, like evidently every European carrier gives you (I call BS on that),

I didn't say Eurocarriers had that, just that they tended to be a bit better. But it's Monkey class so the diff is marginal at best.
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:44 am

I think the Atlantic version has less bathrooms in coach, I know only four, than the Pacific version.
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:51 am

Goomba,


When are you flying MIA-LHR?? I am flying out next Thu the 7th.


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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:57 am

Not sure about Heathrow but every time I've ever flown into LGW I've never seen London Central. All you really see are the outskirts/suburbs and the most smog you could ever imagine above any city. I wouldn't base your seat on seeing a city anyways. See it on foot.

Bartond, if you think that LON has the most smog any city can have, you really need to visit MEX and overfly the city on landing approach. You will be amazed of how much smog we have here... SCL is worst than LON too.

I think the Atlantic version has less bathrooms in coach, I know only four, than the Pacific version.

Correct, the Pacific Version has 6 lavatories in coach, while the Atlantic version has 4; after all, pacific routes are longer...
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:22 am

I flew on it from LHR-ORD and it's a nice aircraft and configuration. I also flew on it from DFW-ORD from it's DFW-ORD-LHR flight segment. It still was good as the trans-atlantic flight The great seats are the at the front bulkhead cause you get more legroom and the TV's are in between the two seats

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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:12 pm

CcrlR - I know about seatguru...thanks. I have 42J LHR - ORD and they say it is not a very good seat; however, many Airliners.net members have told me otherwise in this thread.

Overall it sounds like AA has the very best transatlantic service out there....I'm excited.
 
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RE: AA Coach Class - Atlantic 777 Configuration

Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:16 pm

I have 42J LHR - ORD and they say it is not a very good seat; however, many Airliners.net members have told me otherwise in this thread.


I think you'll find it very subjective. Some of us like 42A and J. Some of us dislike it.
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