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SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:44 am


Hi all,

Does anyone know what the load factors have been on SIA19/20. What's the current load figures for the 19th Oct on the LAX-SIN leg.

What kind of load factors do they need to break even, do they carry much cargo on these routes.

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RE: SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:14 am

Coming on fellow A.net friends. Any feedback on this would be appreciated.

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RE: SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:18 am

Can't help you with the pax loads, but I've heard that they're now taking on freight, which should really help the economics of the particular route.
 
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RE: SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:21 am

Coming on fellow A.net friends.

...lil' graphic for civil-av, no?  Laugh out loud





but I've heard that they're now taking on freight

...the route was calculated/planned for freight from day 1.
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RE: SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:38 am



Thanks for the reply.

Using my company's flight planning system I have been running some route and flight planning scenarios on the LAX-SIN-LAX legs. I used the A340-500 and B777-330ER. The Boeing has a problem even carrying 20,000lb payload on the eastbound leg.

I'll be on the SQ flight later this month, hope to get some feedback from the crew on that days flight. Things such as payload, planned TOT fuel, zfw, take off weight etc. If I get it, I'll do a trip report.

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RE: SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:55 am

The Boeing has a problem even carrying 20,000lb payload on the eastbound leg.

No s**t, The 773ER was never intended to operate this route, its range barely meets the still air distance. The 772LR is the plane you wanna be analysing.
 
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RE: SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:00 am

and B777-330ER

...well, for one thing, no such model designation



The Boeing has a problem even carrying 20,000lb payload on the eastbound leg.

...in the event you were comparing the 773ER; your comparison was anecdotal at best (there's a shock) seeing as it's a B-market aircraft.
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RE: SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:13 am


It was a typo. I was using the 300ER. I know the B773er was not designed for such markets. My flight plans were based on historical and zero wind conditions. These test flight plans where done just for fun, that's all. I will use the 772LR, once the performance data for this A/C is available in our flight planning system.

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RE: SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:46 am

SQ19 J has 10 seats left, Y is wide open. (As of 8th Oct 2004)
SQ20 J and Y are both wide open. (As of 8th Oct 2004)
 
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RE: SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:50 am

Both flights were completely full when I took it in August. I did notice SIA held 1 seat in business and 1 seat in coach, probably for last minute customers.
 
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RE: SIA LAX-SIN-LAX A345 Loads

Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:55 am

Nice one 9V-SPK. Thank you for the update.

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