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Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:00 pm

Starting with aircraft 128 and 129 in late October, THIRTEEN 757-200's will be converted to the 16/156-seat configuration by August 2005. As announced eleven of the BusinessFirst 757's will have the winglets added for extended range beginning in April 2005 with ship 105.

Looks like Continental will defiantly be the King of the 757 transatlantic.

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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:03 pm

Using 757s transatlantic is a very smart move-economically speaking, perfect example of matching seats with demand. I wouldn't mind flying one transatlantic as its probably alot like flying 707s and DC8s of yore (before my time). Of course I'd prefer a widebody-but I wouldn't go out of my way to avoid a transatlantic 757.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:08 pm

will they be configured 2-3 or 2-2 seats across?
 
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:11 pm

They are currently flying. BizFirst is 2-2 while coach is 3-3.
I would like to remind everyone that the BizFirst seats are the same ones on the CO 767's. Also the seat room and pitch is just about the same as on the "Widebodies" you guys love so much. I would think that for a passenger in their seats the ride is no different.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:12 pm

2-2 like all the other BusinessFirst 757s. I don't understand why the don't put the new fully reclining BusinessFirst seats in the 767s and 757s. Why only the 777s? I'm sure they'd be able to squeeze them in, because they take up the same amount of space as the "old" BusinessFirst seats.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:16 pm

All in due time, remember you have to take the A/C out of rotation and also its very $$$$$ to get the new seats. But the word is soon we will see the start to be installed on the other BF aircraft
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:21 pm

A few weeks ago, I flew a CO 757 from MCO-EWR. Though I was not surprised I got upgraded to first, I was surprised the plane was in a Business First configuration. The seats were very comfortable, plenty of legroom, foot rest, etc.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessF

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:34 pm

Flying to LIS on 11/4 --- any ideas what my experience will be like?

any IFE or what are chances to be upgraded to first?

Any help out there would be appreciated.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:41 pm

Boeing bus- there are PTV's in F, in Y it is drop down overhead screens. I didn't use the PTV's because they were not available from MCO-EWR (probably wouldn't have used them on such a short flight).

I don't know about being upgraded to first on an international fight. I know NW/CO offer unlimited upgrades in the US. I've never been upgraded on an international flight unless I the fare I purchased was full fare.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessF

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:52 pm

Will these aircraft also recieve the 757 winglet package that CO ordered? It seems logical to put winglets on the aircraft performing the longest stages, espeically trans-Atlantic ops....
 
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:58 pm

It would be nice if Continental fitted the 757s with seatback IFE ala 76s/77s; however I don't care for the IFE box under the seat.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:00 am

The winglets will be on the BF (75B) aircraft only at first. Depending on the performance it may be applied to the entire 757 fleet but that is many years down the road.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:06 am


Didn't CO turn a few of their BF-configured 757's into regular FC 757's a few years ago? I may be totally off-base here, but I seem to remember such a thing happening.
 
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessF

Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:14 am

You remember correctly, JoseMEX.
 
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:37 am

BoeingBus,

A free upgrade to BF is pretty much out of the question unless the flight is oversold and you're CO/NW elite. You can purchase upgrades (10Kmiles/segment from a full Y fare to Europe, or 20K miles + service fee on other fares). The service fee runs up to $400 on the most discounted fares. I regularly fly EWR-EDI/BHX on the 757, and regardless of whether you're in J or Y, CO transatlantic should be a good flight. Try for row 16 if you can get it...full recline and extra legroom
 
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:44 am

not a surprising move............with the addition of 6 new Trans-atlantic flights we all new they had to be 757's with our lack of widebody equip.
 
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:53 am

Good stuff  Big thumbs up

Love to see 757s over the Atlantic... great news!
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:36 am

"not a surprising move............with the addition of 6 new Trans-atlantic flights we all new they had to be 757's with our lack of widebody equip. "

Well we know Bristol and possibly Belfast and Lagos, what are the other three?..
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:04 am

There's no way Lagos could be with a 757. No way. CLE-LGW, and EWR-OSL are not quite pushing the limit of that aircraft, but it's stretching it, that's for sure. EWR-LOS would have to be a 767 or a 777.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:17 am

obviosly LOS is not a 757, but if we add 6 new flights the majority will be 757s
 
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:04 am

So how many 752s have biz/first now and how many will hav f/j after the new a/c get the new configs?
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:19 am

There are 14 now... 13 more will make 27
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:09 pm

Is service from CLE to LGW THAT low that a major U.S. city like Cleveland can't even fill a 762 or 764 to one of the largest cities like London? I still can't believe that the load factor is that low that they use a 757.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:31 pm

we can fill a 762 from CLE to LGW..........in the back........but what makes a successful international route relies heavilyon the first class product adn we can fill a 757 with 16.....but a 762 carries 25 first class seats..........i think a 76H would work nice during the summer gives 4 more first class and a large number of coach seats.
 
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:48 pm

Will u turn left for BF?
 
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:13 pm

"As announced eleven of the BusinessFirst 757's will have the winglets added for extended range beginning in April 2005 with ship 105."

I haven't seen any 757 with winglets. How will it look like after adding winglets and how will the performance be improved?
 
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:21 pm

"As announced eleven of the BusinessFirst 757's will have the winglets added for extended range beginning in April 2005 with ship 105."

I haven't seen any 757 with winglets. How will it look like after adding winglets and how will the performance be improved ?


Winglets reduce drag, increase range by reducing fuel burn. I think ATA has a couple of 757 with winglets; I know they have many 737-800 with them.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:25 pm

COEWR--Actually--the 757s carry more than the 762s in Continental configuration.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:35 pm

There are no Winglet-ed 757s ..Yet. CO will be the test program for the project.
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:48 am

There are no Winglet-ed 757s ..Yet. CO will be the test program for the project.
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For those who care, Ship 134 will be the test plane for the winglets. It will be the first to have them installed during the current D check

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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessFirst

Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:07 pm

Ah. Is that what 134's doing up in YXX (had to look that one up... Abbotsford, BC).
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RE: Continental Converting More 757's To BusinessF

Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:19 pm

BoeingBus (a bit off topic but relevant to his question) for what it is worth I got a free upgrade to Biz class on a recent CO flight (#20) from Newark to Manchester, UK. Awesome experience BTW. I am a member of OnePass but not a premium member of any type. I think they needed some seats in coach as the gate agent just walked over to me and asked if I was flying alone, I said yes, she took my ticket and upgraded me, though that flight is a 777 not a 757  Smile So you could always get lucky!!!

more on topic:
As for all of CO's expansion, Any ideas on possible orders soon (or 2nd hand 757s) ? It seems as the destinations continue overseas, they will need some new metal at some point.

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