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Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:25 am

Hello

Who owns VP-BAT and what sort of operations does it do, it Comes to Bournemouth a lot but I have seen pictures of it in the USA as well.

Any info would be great


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ntspelich
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:43 am

The plane is owned by Worldwide Aircraft Holdings and operated on behalf of the Qatari government as VIP transport.

A more detailed history of the a/c's owners is available here:

http://www.747sp.com/21648.html

I'd also recommend changing your topic to make it a bit more specific.

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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:49 am

I was in London on September 11th watching a football match - Arsenal at Fulham. Fulham's grounds are on the approach for LHR and while watching the match I looked up and saw a 747SP on final - Probably around 3:30 PM

I couldn't make out the livery. Does anyone know who still flies the 747SP into LHR? Perhaps this was Iran Air?
 
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:52 am

what is the range of the SP?
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ntspelich
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:57 am

According to the a.net a/c info page:

Range with 331 passengers and baggage 10,840km (5855nm),
range with 276 passengers 12,325km (6650nm),
ferry range with max fuel and 13,610kg (30,000lb) payload 15,400km (8315nm).

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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:07 am

I think that Syrian or Iran Air would operate the 747SP into Heathrow still. I saw the Syrian Air 747SP at FRA when I was there in March. One thing you could do, Goomba, is a search of 747SP and LHR in A.Net and see if there are any recent photos and who is operating them into Heathrow. Yeminia may still fly theirs commercially too.

It is one of my favorite aircraft. I remember when Saudia used to operate them for sched services on the first nonstop JED-JFK flights.

I would like to know what it would do if they put the latest and greatest technology into that airframe today, how it would perform.
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:10 am

I would love to see a version of the 747Sp with 744 technology. Obviously there's no reason for them to build one, but it would be interesting to see what range they could give it.
 
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:10 am

This aircraft has also been seen on occasion at RDU. There was a post a while back as to the reason. Old age is catching up to me, and I can't seem to remember the reason. Two possibilities came to mind: someone of stature from there is attending one of the universities in the area, or getting treated at one of the area hospitals.

 
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:26 am

You get a few SPs into LHR, Syrian Air, Iran Air, Bahrain Amiri flight, Yemen government, Saudi, rare visitor though

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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:41 am

>I would love to see a version of the 747Sp with 744 technology.<

Actually, there is one! V8-AC1 was converted to -400 cockpit.




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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:41 am

Does anybody know why in particular SP (Brazil)">VP-BAT is based in Bournemouth...?

I was lucky enough to be at Bournemouth Saturday afternoon (25th) and watch her take off, the first time I've ever see an SP fly. I'm not sure where she was heading though and yesterday whilst waiting for my train at Southampton Central I noticed a 747 fly over on approach to BOU which looked like SP (Brazil)">VP-BAT returning from whatever duties she had been carrying out.
 
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:27 am

VP-BAT was parked at DAL for almost 6 months back in 1997 or 1998. Its interior was being refurbished by Associated Air Services. At that time the ownership was a holding company in the Cayman Islands.

I was at DAL when the aircraft arrived, and it was empty aside from a complete BA crew (including F/A's), which was odd.

I have a photo of it in this database, although it is primitive by today's standards.
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:35 am

Thanks Guy's for all the info.

I think it is going to stay at BOH for a while as it has engine covers on.

Thanks

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Why do aircraft have Engine Covers?
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:35 am

I guess its to protect the engines from the elements if they're gonna be standing for a while, a bit like putting a car in the garage overnight.

Its intresting to know that its currently back at BOH with its engine covers on having seen it depart Saturday afternoon. It used most of the runway length on takeoff (kicking up loads of spray in the process..!) which perhaps meant it was to be travelling some distance. I imagine an aircraft like that with big wings, little payload and not much fuel would not need much runway, even on BOH's relativly short runway lenght of about 6500 feet.
 
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:41 am

I've seen VP-BAT take-off from BOH, it didnt take up as much runway as i thought it would.

Hey if you go to BOH sometimes, do you know about any Aircraft movements that will happen.

Thanks

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SOU146
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:54 am

I didn't expect it to use as much runway as it did, there was not much difference to when I saw a European B742 take off bound for JFK last November.

The only way I know of any aircraft movements is by logging onto http://www.flytecomm.com/cgi-bin/trackflight (copy and paste to ur web browser) and type in EGHH, this only shows flight arrivals and not departures. I only went to BOH last weekend to see the afternoon B732 flights and the BAC 1-11's before they're turned into Coke cans. Shortly after parking up, VP-BAT taxied to the end of the runway and took off.

Amazing sight...! Unfortunalty I don't get to BOH as often as I'd like.
 
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:57 am


I heard that G-AZMF will not be scraped yet but the other 2 are well on there way.

Thanks for the info.
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:58 am

I think the reason that VP-BAT was in RDU was to get family members treatment at Duke University Medical Center.
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SOU146
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:18 am

You could we'll be right as she was parked at the other side of the yard, it will be good if she is'nt but what will they do with her, shes had her engines removed for some time now....?
 
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:17 am

They are going to scrap her if nobody buy's her soon.Well thats what i heard
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RE: Boeing 747sp

Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:49 am

How about fitting the 747SP with 2 huge engines from the T7 and make modification to fit the wing to compliment the 7E7 and another new product without too much development cost.?
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