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BA 737s Returning To LHR

Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:51 am

The first of BAs 737s have start to return to LHR, the first to return is G-DOCE


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Anyone know when the rest are likely to return?

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RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:58 am

Great to see more 737Classics at LHR, expecially BA ones...makes a change from their A319s and A320s that seem to dominate all their short haul flights.

Glenn, do you know why they've decided to move the 737s back to LHR?

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RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:01 am

Yeah mate, they moving back to the 737s back to LHR as LGW will be A319 and B777 fleet only mate!

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RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:02 am

Thanks for the info Glenn, I will have to get back and visit LHR in the not so distant future!

Does anyone know how many 737's BA have left in their fleet?

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RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:07 am

These happy comments clearly aren't from anyone who flies on BA's Euro routes regularly!  Smile The 737s are AWFUL from a passenger perspective, when compared with the A319s in particular... The interiors look so much more dated, the seats are older, and one of the biggest things I miss is the overhead map display - it's amazing how much you get used to that when flying BA, compared with other Euro airlines like LH for example...

I fly at least one EU trip a week with BA and I hope this doesn't last long!
 
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RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:08 am

Glenn, I've heard you are going to be seeing a lot more 737's and A319's in the future. Nice one mate.  Big grin
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RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:13 am

Im afraid these beasts will be around for a while mate, but you got the iminant delivery of our new A321s, sadly without IFE but they will be operating some European routes!

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RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:17 am

Does anyone know how many 737's BA have left in their fleet?

British Airways have 35 B737s left.

  • 5 737-300s


  • 20 737-400s


  • 10 737-500s


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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:01 am

    Nice to have the 737's back, saw one arriving a few weeks ago and was a bit puzzled why it was there...I guessed it was a diversion or something!

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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:04 am

    737s have never left LHR(been on NCL-LHR Flights for years)...319s aint going to LGW now supposedly...BA 321s will be used on flights from LHR T4 only...

    Hope that helps
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:52 pm

    Why don't the A321 have IFE??? It is a little bit strange and would be a shame.
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:59 pm

    Saw lots of BA 737 activity at LHR yesterday, there was even a titan liveried 737 there, which i later saw at a BA gate at GLA. Must have been operating a lhr-gla service for BA which is unusual
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:17 pm

    Why can't BA decide once and for all which fleets are going to operate where ? Those 737's have been back and forth between LHR and LGW for years now - make up your mind BA !

    I for one do not miss the dreadful 734's - very old and tatty, most of them. The new 319's and (older) 320's on the NCE route are much nicer, although I do prefer the 757 or 767 in the summer.
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:05 pm

    I have to agree with JGPH1A about this 'confusion' about where to base the 737s. Have they revealed the reason behind this latest move (moving 737s to LHR, and A319s to LGW)?

    Horus

    p.s. JGPH1A, I have to disagree with you about the 'dreadful 734s', I think that all the 737Classics are beautiful aircraft even though they are 'a bit' run down.
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:12 pm

    The 734's might be nice to look at but they're not as nice to fly in as newer Airbus equipment. Sad but true. Also, baggage on BA Airbus equipment is containerised, which seems at least to result in shorter baggage delivery times, especially at Terminal 1 LHR.

    [Edited 2004-10-06 16:12:50]
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:07 am

    My first post - be kind!

    BA is only returning a couple of 737s to LHR because of shortages of parts and engineer difficulties on the Airbus fleet. NO 319s from LHR are going to LGW yet! Even though, all 737s will eventually leave Gatwick for an all Airbus fleet too.

    Having worked on the 737s for a while, I can tell you that they ARE dreadful, even if pilots say they prefer flying this "real" aircraft... The cabin is dark and tatty, usually accompanied by a rotting smell. The aircraft is noisy and nowhere near as fuel efficient as the latest 319/320s that are being delivered to BA.

    The reason that BA's 321 (first one due for delivery 15th OCT.) will not have IFEs is simply fiscal: BA did not want to spend extra cash on the screens! Shame, especially as these aircraft will eventually replace the 757s on the longer short haul routes such as ATH/SVO/IST.

    BY188b: BA has indeed contracted Titan airways to operate some shuttle flights because of this 319/320 parts/engineer shortage.
     
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:46 am

    JGPH1A, I won't disagree with you there, the Airbuses are obviously more comfortable to fly, but thats understandable considering they're much newer, more modern, and technologically superior to the 737Classics. I have to say I haven't flown as many Classics as I'd like (flown with MS, BA, U2 and FR) but there is something special about flying these older aircraft...perhaps because we know they won't be flying for much longer.

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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:05 am

    Thanks for the update on the situation Alan.

    It's quite ironic that, if I'm not mistaken, the oldest aircraft in the BA fleet is actually an A320!
     
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:07 am

    You're right Shamrock_747. The Airbus 320 G-BUSB is BA's oldest plane. Delivered in 1988 and previously with Caledonian. It's a smelly, knackered bird if you ask me!

    [Edited 2004-10-06 22:31:41]
     
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:27 am

    With the Iberia wet lease and Titan Airways lease, will we get headlines such as "BA flights operated by other Airlines shock" in the news media in a similar way as the recent "BA cuts flights" story?
     
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:33 am

    Hopefully, the arrival of the 321 will help ease the problems at BA. But in my opinion, the airline is finally accepting the fact that too many cuts have been made in the wrong areas! Engineering is permanently short of staff and supplies. And we all know the situation on the ground!
     
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:04 am

    The problems with the 'fleet' are due to a new electronic maintenance program,since being introduced,additional parts have been required for servicing creating a shortage in the supply chain,thus causing aircraft to have longer down time than estimated.

    It is not an Airbus problem before all those 'pro' Boeing guy's 'n' gal's get in to bash Airbus and BA.
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:31 am

    I posted a previous thread about BA's online timetable for next summer showing the majority of next summers LGW flights being A319 operated.

    Also, BA has sold three of the A321s on order to GB Airways, so will only have seven in total.
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:20 pm

    Horus - re: but there is something special about flying these older aircraft...

    You kids today ! I refuse to consider the 737-300/400/500 as a Classics - I remember when it was new - I only flew on my first 300 in 1993, which is only 11 years ago ! The only classic 737's are the 100 and 200.
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:55 pm

    AlanUK:
    BUSB was never with Caledonian (nor British Caledonian). It was delivered after BCal was taken over by BA. I was on the ramp the day it arrived at Gatwick.
    It is an 'orrible old 'eap, though!
     
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:12 pm

    Ooops, yes I meant BCal (not Caledonian)... sorry.
     
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:25 pm

    You kids today ! I refuse to consider the 737-300/400/500 as a Classics

    lol, thanks for that. Well the 737-3/4/500s are probably the oldest aircraft that can you easily fly around Europe, so they are sort of classics. Indeed some the last 734 was manufactured/delievered in 1999, but you have to remember these classics have been around since early 80s. Sorry my friend but I'm not budging.

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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:17 pm

    Alan - welcome to a.net and thanks for the info. It has been rumoured that BA may make a further A319 order to cover the LGW fleet, any news on this? I agree, the new maintenance system seems to cause more trouble than it's worth...
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:22 am

    You could be looking at BA needing to place a 50+ A320 family order if it wanted to replace all the remaining 737s, plus the original A320s and the 757s. Given that it's sold three of its A321s on order to GB Airways might not be happening just yet.
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:28 am

    It is true that BA B734 are horrible. They were horrible 5 years ago, I can only imagine what they look like now.
     
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    RE: BA 737s Returning To LHR

    Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:20 am

    "Horrible BA 734s" - apparently, that's what they are, as so many posts say this... Just a "personal impression": my only flight on BA737-400 was in Club Europe, 4 years ago - a great flight with a wonderful airline (BTW, my only other flight ever on 734 was two weeks before that one, with SU - again, in Business. Another great flight with, well, pretty good airline). Anyone else with good words about BA737s?  Smile

    "pilots say they prefer flying this "real" aircraft... " - pretty interesting...