flydc10
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Mexico Civil Aviation In 6 Yeara

Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:00 am

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I was just wondering what will happen overall with the mexican civil aviation. What will be the fleet of AM, MEXicana or will cintra sell them or put them together into one airline, and what will happen to smaller airlies like, aerocalifornia, aviacsa, azteca.


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EddieDude
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RE: Mexico Civil Aviation In 6 Yeara

Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:45 pm

Flydc10, first I want to welcome you to a.net. I look forward to reading your posts and talking to you about aviation, our national carriers and other related topics. I trust that you will enjoy reading the threads and posting replies here as much as I have since I joined almost one year ago. So, again, welcome buddy!

It is hard to do "futurology" but I guess that MX and AM will be owned by separate owners and will compete aggressively against each other. Hopefully their new owners will be careful with the finances of the companies but will be true entrepreneurs willing to take some risks in order to expand them. In terms of fleet, I think AM will own ERJ regional jets (AeroLitoral) and will have a simple mainline fleet of 73W's, 767ER's and 772ER's... perhaps some Mad Dogs will still be around but not for long. MX, on the other hand, will have a narrowbody fleet of A32x's (I don't know what QA will operate, though, or if it will continue to exist) and, hopefully, several A340's (A345's and A346's would be nice, although I won't complain if it gets A343e's instead)... maybe a couple of 763ER's will also be used for some flights. JR might not make it much longer so I don't think it will still be around in 6 years... however, it has proved to be very resilient and die-hard, so it may surprise us. 6A will hopefully be bigger and as healthy as it is now. Perhaps by then 6A will offer 2-class service and a traditional f.f. program and offer several routes to foreign airports. The real icing on the cake with respect to 6A, though, would be if their fleet is renovated as well as their livery and corporate identity. As for ZE, I think they can and must change now that fresh capital has been injected to the company by its new investors. They would do right to try to emulate the success of Gol in Brazil... an all-737 fleet is what I see for them in the future, although it might also get some 752's for some flights. VW is probably going to still be around since it is a niche carrier that caters to business travelers who need to go to cities forgotten by AM and MX.

Do not discard acquisitions among the different airlines after MX and AM are sold separately if the fuel prices go down, the economy starts to expand and the airlines start becoming profitable.

It will be real interesting to read what other a.netters foresee for our aviation industry.

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RE: Mexico Civil Aviation In 6 Yeara

Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:42 am

I just want a good future for all our airlines (by then, for the current ones who still will be alive and the new start ups in years to come) and an important thing... years of REAL growth in the internal and external market!

Hope they have a good in flight service, new planes and competitive REAL fares!

Progress of our airlines will much depend on mexican airports infrastructure and growth.

TUA (Tarifa de Uso de Aeropuerto/Airport taxes), which are a very important player in our aviation, hope government (ASA) and the other private groups who own our airports to lower the taxes and landing fees for the airlines!

Fuel prices is another important factor to consider for the future. Currently all airlines are struggling because of this, fuel prices should lower also!


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RE: Mexico Civil Aviation In 6 Yeara

Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:51 pm

Six years from now, we will be in the fourth year of government of a new president. The future of Mexican aviation (and of almost everything else) will be grim if Lopez Obrador makes it to the big chair.

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RE: Mexico Civil Aviation In 6 Yeara

Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:14 am

....The future of Mexican aviation (and of almost everything else) will be grim if Lopez Obrador makes it to the big chair.....

And as I once discussing with a friend... if Obrador makes it to the big chair we can all forget about mexican aviation development, expect very few things with our airlines, airports, and him saying in an early morning conference... 'Aviation in Mexico is a luxury in which only rich people in the country has access' therefore, me and my government have created this new extra luxury TAX of 20USD for each issued ticket!

And for sure other smart ideas like this could come in his 6 yrs being at the big chair!

As once VS said.....NO WAY AA/BA.... I say...NO WAY L.O./Mexico!


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RE: Mexico Civil Aviation In 6 Yeara

Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:29 am

"Aviation in Mexico is a luxury in which only rich people in the country has access"

Let's just hope that Azteca, Aviacsa do not exchange planes for buses....

NO WAY L.O/Mexico.
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RE: Mexico Civil Aviation In 6 Yeara

Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:42 am

Let's just hope that Azteca, Aviacsa do not exchange planes for buses....

Hope not!! Fortunately, Magnicharters is going the opposite way and flying in the right direction, improving their service that's even better to the first class bus system we have in the country! From their 130 seat config to a 68 seat config, reducing travelling time and giving you a full meal/bar service, Magnicharters is the option! Way much better than the 98 seat config and 8-10 hour trip to MTY by ground! LOL!!

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