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Caledonian

Sat Mar 04, 2000 11:04 pm

Hi! I think it is quite sad that Caledonian is now deceased, so how about keeping the call-sign "Cally" for JMC-air? Seems like a nice idea to me, what do you think?

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blink182
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RE: Caledonian

Sun Mar 05, 2000 12:52 am

JMC Air, that is what you DONT call an airline, i think it is pretty sad because Caledonians color scheme was one of the best i have seen and and the legendary "golden Lion" When ever i fly into gatwick, i always look forward for the chance to see caledonian aircraft, now i wont have the opportunity now   plus i have seen the jmc color scheme, i think it is ugly, i will really miss caledonian
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
 
bacardi182
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RE: Caledonian

Sun Mar 05, 2000 1:45 am

JMC air? i think it is all lower case lettering, am i right? if so it is jmc air

Blink182 wrote:
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JMC Air, that is what you DONT call an airline, i think it is pretty sad because Caledonians color scheme was one of the best i have seen and and the legendary "golden Lion" When ever i fly into gatwick, i always look forward for the chance to see caledonian aircraft, now i wont have the opportunity now   plus i have seen the jmc color scheme, i think it is ugly, i will really miss caledonian
 
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RE: Caledonian/FCL

Sun Mar 05, 2000 2:06 am

Also, are Flying Colours merging with Caledonian to make JMC?, i heard that FCL are to become JMC or am i wrong ?
 
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RE: Caledonian/FCL

Sun Mar 05, 2000 3:03 am

Yes FlC is merging to become jmc AIR Andy 15.
According to this.............. G-BKYB
is A British Airways (Birmingham) 737 236
and it is called the river Stour.
Am I right ?
 
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Jmc Air - Why It Is

Sun Mar 05, 2000 7:03 am

Maybe I can explain why the 2 airlines were merged under a totally new identity;
When an airline is taken over, or 2 airlines are merged under the identity of the larger one there are often problems of resentment and bad feeling among the staff of the that loses it's identity towards the comany/staff that is the dominant airline.

For example when Air 2000 took over Leisure the staff and aircraft were absorbed into Air 2000, but there were difficulties because staff felt they had been treated like they were from a bankrupt company because they were being made to work for a new employer (not true) Although the Air 2000 has better pay and conditions than Leisure had, this only lead to feelings that the ex-Leisure staff were inferior in some way (also, not true) So you see both groups of employees feel resentment towards one another and you no longer have a unified workforce I've simplified this but they are the main points.

When you have a new company, these feelings are minimised, jmc Air will be new to everybody be they from Caledonian or Flying Colours. However, the problem here is it's fairly clear to everyone that FCL is the dominant airline and CKT is being taken over. The same situation has arisen as AMM/LEI, however the reason for jmc AIR was to avoid this, it just wasn't handled that well be the management ie keep FCL management, get rid of CKT management etc...

Also, the name I believe is jmc AIR.

All that said, It doesn't mean I like the name or the livery. The name I hate, the livery is growing on me!

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RE: Caledonian

Mon Mar 06, 2000 3:09 am

The name Caledonian has been through quite a few upheavals over the years. The original "Caledonian" airline was founded in the late 1950's and was originally based at Prestwick in Scotland. They operated DC-7's and later, Britannias. In 1970, a boardroom reshuffle at British United saw the departure of chairman, Freddie Laker from that airline and the merging of BUA and Caledonian to form a new airline, based at Gatwick, called British Caledonian. It was at this time that the blue tail and gold lion was introduced. BCal grew over the next few years becomming, following a review by the British government, the UK's "Second Force" airline. As a result of this, some of BA's routes were transferred to BCal. Unfortunately, BCal fell on hard times in the mid-80's and their routes and fleet were taken over, ironically, by BA in 1987. The "Caledonian" name did not dissappear however, as BA decided to change the name of their charter subsidiary "British Airtours" to "Caledonian", partly because of the negative publicity following the Manchester fire of 1985. Caledonian continued as BA's charter wing for a few more years but eventually became independent again following a management buyout. This is the Caledonian which subsequently became part of the Thomas Cook Group resulting in the recent (sad) demise of the name.