Checo77
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No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:27 am

I once flew the CO route from IAH to TUL. It was aprox. one hour long and I was shocked since there was entertainment on board (some comedies!). On Intra-Europeans flights, there´s no entertainment on the flight, even if the aiplains are the same (737s). I once flew route OK from PRG to LHR (aprox. 2hours) and no entertainment was available. Equaly, other Europeans carriers do so.
Why they do so? I think a revolution should be made with this.
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Adam Bechny
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JAXpax
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:29 am

Why they do so?

Different wants/needs. Americans feel the need to have effortless audio/video entertainment to help their short attention spans, perhaps?

Clearly if the market in Europe demanded such entertainment, it would be made available. However, I'd like to be optimistic and think there is at least one area of the world where people can still occupy themselves for an hour.
 
ltbewr
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:32 am

You don't have taped entertainment on WN flights either or on most other LCC's here in the USA or in Europe. Maybe in Europe they use the saved money so can have some profits or pay the workers better instead. Also, the multiple languages and countries that can be involved could make it difficult to offer entertainment/programs to staisfy all. There could be various rights and national content laws as to programing that could make it near impossible to offer entertainment.
 
daumueller
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:36 am

that's why we germans (LH) still don't have PTVs in Y class  Smile

and for our french neighbours, instead of watching a movie, they have plenty of time to complain about the dirty AF planes  Smile

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andz
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:36 am

I recently flew LHR-HEL and HEL-CDG with Finnair and they had drop down screens on the 321/320 with some comedy, no sound though but Frasier had English subtitles!
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BCAL
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:52 am

However, I'd like to be optimistic and think there is at least one area of the world where people can still occupy themselves for an hour.

Speaking as a Brit and European, on a short flight who wants to be bombarded with the likes of Frasier, Tom & Jerry, or some action hero saving the world? We can read, play cards, talk to our travelling companions, finish the crossword, even look at the view from the window and do not need a box to entertain us. How do you think our granparents managed on trips that took days if not weeks without any television?

Once our plane was diverted to MAN since LGW was snowbound. There were many other planes diverted so the terminals were clogged and passengers had to wait in planes for hours. To entertain us the crew put on the latest family film with an irritating actor. There was nowhere to escape watching the film on the plane. Until then I was tolerating the inconvience but the movie just made me want to jump off the plane.

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avt007
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:56 am

As a Canadian, I was surprised as well at the Euro business class product. At home you will generally get bigger seats, longer pitch, better entertainment, and better food and service. On LH and AZ,within Europe or short haul (less than 4 hours) only the food is better, all else is as in economy. Strange to what we are used to.
 
richardw
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:12 am

Iberia show a visual comedy episode on their short haul flights, no sound required so no language problem.

GB Airways is currently considering IFE on it's longer flights to Spain and the Canary Islands from the UK.
 
2000first
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:15 am

hi everyone,

this subject happens to be one in which I think the charter airlines outshine the scheduled by far! for example, I have never been on a charter flight in europe where i have not received a hot meal and been able to have access to some form of entertainment. This even includes the flight from BFS-LYS which only takes just under 2 hrs, altho it is scheduled normally at about 2hrs15.

On the other hand, scheduled flights i have been on, i have NEVER been served a hot meal (apart from a British Midland flight to LHR when i was about 10) and never had any form of IFE. And the scheduled flights have always been way more costly. EG: I flew on Aer lingus from dublin to rome (this was in 1999, before they became a LCC on short haul routes) and all we got was one free drink and a cold sandwich. Have also flown on British Midland to PMI and also, no hot meal or IFE.

So IMHO I would far rather travel on a charter airline within europe, as the service standards seem to be better in my experience. the only drawback is the legroom, but I can deal with that for a few hours at least!  Smile
 
BCAL
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:22 am

So IMHO I would far rather travel on a charter airline within europe, as the service standards seem to be better in my experience. the only drawback is the legroom, but I can deal with that for a few hours at least!

It is true that on some routes charter flights offer a superior service than the scheduled carriers. Apart from the smaller seat pitch a drawback on charter is the fact that on many routes charters only fly weekly so you might get stuck at the destination for 7 or 14 days.

Monarch offers a superior service to BA on LGW/LPA. Trouble is it is hard to find availability on the Monarch charters and their fares are actually higher than BA's - last flight was £169 on BA and Monarch's fare (for the same dates) £339 - ouch!

MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
 
richardw
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:25 am

But which economy seat is more comfortable on LGW-LPA? MON or BA?#
Do BA serve a meal in Economy on this route or a Deli Box?
 
BCAL
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:31 am

Do BA serve a meal in Economy on this route or a Deli Box?

On my last BA flight to LPA it was a hot meal service in economy. Remember that it is GB Airways operating on this route as BA's franchise.

Seat pitch - from memory Monarch is 29" and BA (GB's) a more generous 31". I always managed to get seats in the emergency exit rows in Monarch.

BA offers complimentary drinks and wine with meals - Monarch charges for all drinks.



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MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
 
geoffm
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:21 am

On flights of 3 hours or less, entertainment really is not needed. Read a book, have a nap, talk with your neighbours. My BA flight to IST recently was just under 4 hours and had TV monitors in the gangway (mostly obscured from the window seats) with news, a movie and a couple of comedies. From what I could tell wandering down the aisle, and from the numbers of used headphones, few people were bothering to watch it. A hot meal took up a good half hour, the last half spent staring out the window at the dusk sky over Holland/England watching all the other flights in the air!

Somehow I think Jaxpax is correct!  Wink/being sarcastic

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flylondon
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:29 am

Speaking as a Brit and European

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adriaticflight
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:21 am

Malev show comodies and things like 'Mr Bean' on their shorthaul flights on the 737-600s anyway. Both Malev and swiss show route maps (depending on the aircraft a319/a320 for Swiss and 736/7 malev). But I actually don't like it, if you fly frequently with these airline you might see the same program several times. Just watch out the window. And as for the people who complain about seat pitch, get a life. Unless you are very very tall I can't see that it make any difference if your flying within Europe. Also whenever I am on a flight and someone puts their seat back in front of me I want to hit them, its really silly. Just my opinion.
 
flyboy1980
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:26 pm

I flew FRA-HEL in late 1998 and HEL-FRA in Feb 1999 on Lufthansa.

A/c was 737-500 both flights, flight time of about 3.5 hours.

Being a Kiwi used to IFE on trans-Tasman flights, I was a little shocked to be on a flight of that length with nothing other than the German language magazine.

We at least got a cold meal on both flights, but not sure what the IFE is like now.
 
Jano
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:40 pm

How about reading a book? Or a mag? There are whole bunch of goods reads. That makes for an excellent entertainment... Or, one can even talk to a seatmate, if that's not too scary Smile
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sw733
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RE: No Entertainment On European Flights

Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:42 pm

I had entertainment this summer on my BRU - VIE flight on an Austrian A320...hahaha it was Donald Duck cartoons to be exact...good times, good times

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