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FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:39 pm

... if or when a new terminal is built at DUB.

In addition to the guaranteed 20 new routes, including to Spain, Italy, France, Germany and Scandinavia, FR guarantees that it would enable:

1) 5 million additional passengers every year to Irish tourism;
2) 10 new based aircraft; and
3) 5,000 new jobs.

FR has also made it clear that the new terminal would not necessarily have to be reserved just for itself - other airlines could use it.

The new chairman of DUB announced that 'changes need to be made,' so it might be more likely to happen. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

This has been kicking around for a good few years now, but without any progress whatsoever.

[Edited 2004-10-21 14:42:31]
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:49 pm

Dublin ? Don't you mean Liverpool West ?  Smile

Aha - a subtle but highly significant caveat there - IF the new terminal is built. What would the 5000 jobs be ? Crew and ground staff I am assuming, but you don't need 5000 people to run 10 planes, especially on FR's skeleton crew basis.

The new routes would no doubt be to such thrilling (and cheap) places as
St Petersburg West (Vilnius)
Athens East (Izmir)
Jerez South (Algiers)
Ibiza North (Mahon)
Nice (Toulon)
Marseilles (Toulon)
Bastia (Toulon)
Ajaccio (Bastia (Toulon))
Lille (Brussels South (Charleroi))

 Laugh out loud
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:55 pm

Muahahah  Big thumbs up good one JGPH1A
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:05 pm

You made me laugh out loud JGPH1A.  Laugh out loud

On a serious side they been talking for years about building a new terminal at Dublin and, as far as I know, nothing definite has or will be announced whilst the present owners of the airport are still in control.

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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:29 pm

The present owners changed from Aer Rianta to the Dublin Airport Authority a few weeks back. So far we've had a planning application for a 10,000ft runway and a few moans about the Shannon stopover.

The biggest problem with a new terminal is that everyone's spotted it as a 100% gold plated cash cow and therefore everyone want's an involvement. In fairness to O'Leary he doesn't give a damn who runs it. He'd settle for a corrugated cow shed, as long as it's cheap to use and it's built now.

Most of O'Leary's statement was made to Aer Rianta two or three years ago. Maybe he's hoping the new lot will pay some attention.
 
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:04 am

JGPH1A you impudent monkey!
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:26 am

Should the international gateway of a country have a garden shed for an airport for services to Ibiza (North) - Nimes?
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:08 am

This is hilarious. Still, FR makes money and people travel far to use them. Also, they stimulate tourism in the areas where their airports are (Costa Brava, Vilnius, etc.)
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:29 am

Re: Also, they stimulate tourism in the areas where their airports are (Costa Brava, Vilnius, etc.)

Yes - especially when they want you to buy your clothes etc when you get there, rather than take any luggage with you ! Although the areas where their airports are are usually out in the middle of nowhere (wind howls, crickets chirp, tumbleweed rolls by)
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:54 am

In addition to a second terminal DUB could also do with:

- a rail link
- not charging for trolleys
- more efficient allocation of flights to baggage carousels
- a rail link
 
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:24 pm

Two rail links, Greenjet?

I thought this was actually a firm proposal when I saw the thread heading, but it's not, as yet. Why can't they start these services before the new terminal, which could be quite a while coming.

Interesting that they're backing away from the FR terminal idea.

It's interesting to note that the new Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) has been starting on a good footing and if FR can establish a reasonable working r/ship, things may start moving quite quickly.
 
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:46 pm

Are Ryanair willing to pay for:

- a second runway
- a second terminal
- a rail link
- not charging for trolleys
- more efficient allocation of flights to baggage carousels

Doh... I think not. Basicially you get what you pay for.
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:03 pm

5000 new jobs thats great,so how much money will rip of ryanair make out of its new employees, from paying for medicals ,ref checks,training.
I really can not understand why people will spend thousands to work for a company to be worked like dogs.

I do feel however dublin airport needs some more developement, however its better than it was when i was based there with TRANSLIFT on the DC-8.
 
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:12 pm

I think the 5,000 new jobs actually refers to the entire number of people who will be employed, not necessarily those on Ryanair's books: ie shop assistants, cleaners, security, bar staff, etc
 
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:21 pm

re: 2nd (parallel) DUB runway yeah
how long before the place is `worse than Gatwick' at peak times?
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:46 pm

Translift DC-8's brings back memories of DUB- Winnipeg - LAX! Only 10 years ago?
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RE: FR To Launch 20 New Routes From DUB...

Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:48 am

Are Ryanair willing to pay for:

- a second runway
- a second terminal
- a rail link
- not charging for trolleys
- more efficient allocation of flights to baggage carousels

Doh... I think not. Basicially you get what you pay for.


Ryanair will pay for nothing unless it's absolutely necessary (from their point of view). But why would they pay for a rail link? No airline pays for a rail link. That would surely come out of the tax payer's pocket. DUB is the only airport of its size in Europe without a rail link. It's not as if the road network in to the city centre provides rapid access.

With regard to charging for trolleys again that is not a Ryanair issue. It's a DAA one. They expect passengers coming in to the airport to have 1 euro on them. Ok so they have change machines and you get your money back in the end but it's all so pointless.

Finally more efficient allocation of flights to baggage carousels is again a DAA issue. More often than not you have passengers coming in to the baggage hall from Pier A who have to walk down to the far end of the hall (near Pier C) to get their bags, and passengers coming in to the hall from Pier C have to go down towards Pier A to get their bags. The result is criss-crossing of passengers in an already cramped environment. At least they're finally covering up the wires in the ceiling in the baggage hall.

Noel Hanlon and Michael O'Leary didn't agree on much but they're both right in saying DUB is a third world airport.

I've really got to stop moaning  Smile

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