Frontiercpt
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:47 am

Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:36 am

Hey everyone! For the third time, UA has changed my itinerary. Insteadof having about two hours to transfer to my flight to DEN, then to STL, my flight from BUR was changed to an earlier, flight, and my flight to DEN was changed to a later flight. So, now I get into SFO from BUR at 9:36AM, and don't depart for DEN until 2:00PM( on a 777!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). What all can I do, besides spotting, which I obviously plan on doing? Is it easy to go to the other terminals without exiting security? Or should I just hang out in the UA terminal? Is it easy to swing over to the Skywest remote terminal( my dad flies for them, and I love regionals)? Is there anything else a 13 year old plane geek can do? I was thinking I might hop on BART, and go to Pittsburgh(not PA) and see my brother for a little bit, but I don't want to risk missing my first 777 flight! Or, I might head south, and see my friend. But, what do you guys recommend me doing for four( around) hours? Thanks in advance!
~Sean
 
as739x
Posts: 5018
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:23 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:07 am

Sean-well there are a few options. I'd go check out the aviation museum in the international terminal. Its on the other side from United, but worth the little walk. Also, as of right now due to change in the contracts, the best food it in the international food courts. Take the airtrain around few times. You get some very good view as well as good pics if you have a good lens. You can also take the Airtrain to the car rental and get soem good shots of departing heavys. You won't get to see the bulk of them since most of them leave after noon. Uniteds terminal will have the best view of the international G concourse. Most activity before 1pm is on the north (G) side of the international terminal. Anymore questions drop me a line!

I doubt you can make it up to Pittsburg and back in time, to risky!

ASSFO
"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
 
sfointern
Posts: 1104
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2001 1:19 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:29 am

You can go to downtown San Francisco and have a little meal and come back. It's only about a 20-minute cabride.
 
Frontiercpt
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:47 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:34 am

Sfointern- I'm 13, lol, I don't think that my mom would approve of me taking a cab to downtown SFO alone, lol, it was fine when we lived there( but then again, I was only 3, and I never rode cabs anyways, lol). That would be fun and all, but I think I would much rather enjoy planes, and spot, hehe.  Big thumbs up
~Sean~
 
sfointern
Posts: 1104
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2001 1:19 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:59 am

Oh, in that case, just do jumping jacks in the International Terminal until you vomit.
 
hawaiian717
Posts: 3139
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 2:46 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:00 am

I would call United and see if they can adjust your itinerary so that your connections are a little more reasonable. Either a later flight BUR-SFO, or better yet, take one of the BUR-DEN nonstop flights. Since this is the result of a United schedule change, they should not charge you.

David / MRY
 
res
Posts: 383
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2000 8:53 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:10 am

Put you money on a leash, so if you drop it, you dont have to bend over to pick it up....and you KNOW what i'm talking about
FLY NAVY
 
BH346
Posts: 3164
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2000 5:50 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:14 am

I haven't been to SFO, but I imagine there would be plenty to do in a large airport like that. Watch the heavies at the International Terminal, get something to eat, browse some shops, check out the regional terminal, and it should be about time for you to board. Considering it's a 777, I'll probably board fairly early. However, if you would rather reschedule, call United and see if they can reschedule you. They should be able to do it without charge since it was a reschedule.

BTW, if you take the flight, enjoy the 777. It's a great plane  Big thumbs up
Northwest Airlines - Some People Just Know How to Fly
 
jfrworld
Posts: 367
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:21 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:40 am

I just hope they don't change out the 777 on the 2pm SFO - DEN leg. I flew that flight last month. I purposely booked that flight for the chance to fly a 777, but UA switched out the 777 for a 747-400 that week. Although I wasn't disappointed about flying the 747, I did have my heart set on the 777.
 
cschleic
Posts: 1240
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:47 pm

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:37 pm

The United terminal has good views of landing aircraft as they taxi off the runway. Since you wouldn't have a boarding pass to get into other concourses (such as the south terminal with good views of planes heading to takeoff on runway 1) that's not an option. There's also a store with models of planes (or used to be - I haven't been there in several years) in the rotunda of the United concourse.
 
ua777222
Posts: 2987
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:23 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:07 pm

I really suggest you do what you would normally do in an airport. Just look around. I was in SF today actually. If you are willing to take the chance of leaving the airport the city has a bunch of cool stuff. BART is pricy (Orinda-Powell St.-Orinda=6.90) but if you jump on BART from SFO and head to Powell St. you can snoop around the San Francisco Shopping Centre. It's a 29min. ride and will cost you $9.90 Round Trip. Lot's of cool shopping/food but if you leave the Mall watch your pocket, very tourest friendly so this brings pick-pocketers around all the time.

Getting to Pittsburg/Bay Point is impossible with your time. It's a 1hr 15min ride and will cost you $14.90 round trip. I live in Orinda which isn't too far past Powell St. so if your stuck feel free to stop in O-Town for a while. Not much here just coffee, house wifes, SUV's, and a lot of "nothing to do" time.

The next suggestion which is even better is to get on BART and take it to Millbrae. It's a $3.00 Round Trip and will take 5min. Exit the station to Rollins Rd. Which is at the end and to the right of the bus stations at the bottom of the stairs apon exiting the station. Cross the street and contiue North East on East Millbrae Ave. you will have to cross the freeway (101) which you can only do on the right side of the freeway/street. They will be nice and stop just give it time. Continue for about 5 min. until the street ends. There's a great grassy area/park that is probably 100yrds from the 10R/L runways and is a great place to view departures.

Just do the same thing to find your way back to BART. The only thing is is that BART departs every 15-20 for the Millbrae-SFO-Millbrae route. To get to Millbrae just take the Millbrae trian and to get to SFO take the Pittsburg/Bay Point Train, it WILL stop at SFO first.

Again I'm always here if your out of ideas and seeing how Orinda has the name of Borinda I have a lot of time on my hands.

Hope this helps ya!

Thanks again and enjoy SFO!

UA777222
"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
 
User avatar
Aaron747
Posts: 8560
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:07 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:11 pm

Lot's of cool shopping/food but if you leave the Mall watch your pocket, very tourest friendly so this brings pick-pocketers around all the time.

LOL this seems to be a problem only for those who filter in from the suburbs with big targets on their backs. For those of us in the city, it's funny to even consider the idea of being pick-pocketed in that area.

Frontier, I *highly* recommend the aviation museum in the International Terminal. Ask one of the friendly volunteer guides in the terminal how to find it - it's tucked away in a corner and unless you know your way around the building you might miss it wandering around on your own. It's a very nice museum and I'm sure you won't be disappointed. Beware of the international food court btw - unless you can stomach paying $9 for sandwiches, it's not much in the way of affordable lunch faire.
If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
 
ua777222
Posts: 2987
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:23 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:22 pm

I don't take too kindly to your comments about my being a "big target". I just said that b/c about 4 months ago I was approached by a man who was pick pocketed infront of Macy's while shopping. This was in Union Square which is just as crouded as Market and Powell. I do agree about the food. I got a "snack" before I headed in and it was a salad and drink and it was something like 16.50!

Again have fun dude!

Thanks again.

UA777222
"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
 
timz
Posts: 6159
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 1999 7:43 am

RE: SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:34 pm

"There's a great grassy area/park that is probably 100yrds from the 10R/L runways and is a great place to view departures."

Runway 1R, he means. The east end of Millbrae Ave is maybe 3/4 mile from BART, and if you've ever seen a plane take off you won't see anything new there. I'd say the view from the peoplemover stations in the terminal area is about as good as any.
 
ua777222
Posts: 2987
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:23 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:20 pm

Timz,

Which on is it? I have always said 1R/L but have been corrected about 10000 times being told that it was 10R/L.

Thanks again.

UA777222
"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
 
timz
Posts: 6159
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 1999 7:43 am

RE: SFO Runways

Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:06 am

"Which on is it? I have always said 1R/L..."

Planes that start a couple hundred yards north of the US 101 freeway and depart north-northeastward, away from the freeway, are on 1L or 1R. If somebody said different, they misunderstood you.
 
Frontiercpt
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:47 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:19 am

Oh, sorry I didn't clarify, but I'm one of those people who want to make any extra connections, and plus, I get a few hundred extra miles than going straight to DEN, and I absolutely hate(more than I hate women) one-stop flights!  Big thumbs up Ya, I think I will just amuse myself within the airport, I mean, I saw so much stuff when we lived there, and my brother still does live there, so not much for me to want to see in the city, but thanks for all of this information!  Smile
~Sean~
 
User avatar
Aaron747
Posts: 8560
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:07 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:14 am

Sorry if you're offended 777222, but if you lived in the city, you'd understand how amusing the outright absence of street smarts among the suburban shoppers is.

Re the runways, it's unusual for anyone to refer to SFO's longest pair by 10L/R. To almost everyone they are the 28s as that's the direction/assignment most often in use. And yes, the runways *nearest* to the bayfront park are 1L/R but it's nothing special unless you have a heavy going off them. 2 pm is a good time of day - you get a domestic UA 744 and 777 within about 15-20 minutes of one another. Nothing but a boring parade of 733s, A320s and CRJs most of the day.
If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
 
sfoff
Posts: 58
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:15 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:50 pm

SFO has the aviation museum, plus many other museum displays. Go to www.sfoarts.org for a map and list of exhibits. Eat at the international terminal, the food is a lot better, The restaurants are branches of real restaurants in San Francisco. If you like hamburgers be sure to go to the "Burger Joint" near the aviation museum. That was my fave.

Have Fun
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking"
 
Tarytoons
Posts: 19
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:33 pm

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:51 am

I hate to sound COMPLETELY ignorant, but what makes the 777 such a great acft?
"you magnificent pagan god!"
 
Frontiercpt
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:47 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:59 am

Tarytoons-nothing really, but I just seem to enjoy flying on new aircraft, that I have never flown before, especially since I probably will never get the chance to since I don't fly anywhere where 777's happen to fly.
~Sean~
 
Tarytoons
Posts: 19
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:33 pm

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:49 am

Sean,
I can appreciate that. I just wasn't sure if there was something that makes the 777 unique. I LOVE all things aviation, but my knowledge base is still very limited ( I don't hardly know nuttin' !) =)
Just thought I'd ask...T
"you magnificent pagan god!"
 
kanebear
Posts: 852
Joined: Tue May 28, 2002 12:06 am

RE: Four And A Half Hours In SFO, What Do I Do?

Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:11 am

Hey Aaron747...

You got a problem with slackjawed self-absorbed folks with no situational awareness skills??? *ducking* Big grin

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos