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FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:56 pm

FlyBE have today annouced they will be operating the 737 and launched seven new destinations from BHX.

They will be operating to:

Alicante
Faro
Murcia
Almeria
Malaga
Palma
Geneva

This will take them head to head with MyTravellite and BMI Baby and is quite a change from their usual busines destinations at BHX they currently operate.

Press Release

Flybe. announces 7 new routes, 430,000 extra seats at Birmingham International Airport
25th October 2004
Flybe., Europe’s third largest low cost airline today announces seven new European routes from Birmingham International Airport, adding 430,000 seats into the market, taking its total seat capacity at Birmingham to two million seats. This consolidates flybe’s position as Birmingham’s largest single scheduled carrier.

Simultaneously flybe. is announcing that it will deploy its first ever 150 seat jet capacity – Boeing 737-300’s – to fly these routes from Birmingham. This confirms Birmingham as a major centre of operation for flybe.

Flybe. will offer these new services from Birmingham to Alicante, Malaga, Murcia, Faro, Palma, Almeria and Geneva. With prices starting from £39 all inclusive, tickets are on sale today at www.flybe.com (except Geneva which will be on sale in late June 2005). Flights to Spain and Portugal begin in March 2005.

The new routes follow hot on the heels of flybe.’s recent announcement of new French routes, and the addition of Liverpool John Lennon airport to its network of UK bases. This follows flybe.’s most successful year to date with the recent announcement of provisional profit figures for the financial year 2003/2004 of £3.1m.

Flybe.’s move is part of its ongoing commitment to providing an unrivalled low cost airline service to all the major regional population centres of the UK. The Midlands is a buoyant regional economy which flybe. expansion should help to grow further. Flybe. thanks Birmingham International Airport and the wider Midlands business community for the work done to aid with its aggressive expansion plans in the region.

The launch of the new routes out of Birmingham are part of flybe.’s ambitious summer schedule for 2005/6 which will be announced later this year and forms part of the airline’s overall strategy of continued investment and expansion of both its domestic and international route network.

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Mike Rutter, Sales and Marketing Director, flybe., commented: ‘Opening up the gateway to Europe for flyers in the Midlands has always been a priority for us, and we are delighted to announce our plans today. It’s good news for the local economy, and also a great new way for people in the Midlands to access mainland Europe for business or leisure. Whilst many of our competitors are route cutting and retrenching back to London, flybe. is expanding in the regions and is committed to bringing flights to your door.

‘As a result of these announcements CBI figures suggest that 430 jobs will be created in the Midlands economy, of which 25 will be created directly at flybe.’

Flybe. has always been committed to Birmingham and the Midlands, which is witnessed by its recent announcement of the largest sports sponsorship deal in Midlands history as it extended its deal as major club sponsor with Birmingham City, by a further two years to 2007.

‘With Birmingham now fully integrated into flybe.’s European network we’re going to be looking at adding more routes and more capacity over time – increased competition in the marketplace can only be good news for travellers from the Midlands. Flybe. will seek to add up to a further three 737’s over the next 24 months.

‘Birmingham International Airport has made this partnership possible, and we would like to acknowledge the efforts made by the BIA business development team to make these routes possible.’

Peter Vella, BIA’s Business Development Director said, “Flybe. has been an important part of the Airport’s development and success over the past 10 years and we are therefore delighted that it has decided to expand its Birmingham base in this way. The news not only demonstrates confidence in BIA, but also in the region, helping to create new jobs, support inward tourism, and offer Midlands' business and leisure travellers even more choice from Birmingham.”




[Edited 2004-10-25 11:58:49]
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:03 pm

Great news!

Is it now the beginning of the end of their BAE146s. Apparently with their 3-3 seating arrangment, they are extremely cramped.
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:03 pm

Just received the same press release. When did they order the 737's? Can find nothing on the website - and are they leased or bought?

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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:04 pm

This is a great move by FlyBE and they always said they would defend their position as one of Birminghams leading LCC.

They offer an excellent service that very few other LCC can match and as they have lauched these routes well in advanced of the winter season will probably be able to steal some business from the other carriers.

The midlands now is becoming very saturated with LCC fly to Spain and Portugal with:

EMA
BMI Baby
easyJet

BHX
Monarch Scheduled
MyTravelLite
BMI Baby
FlyBE

CVT
Hapag Lloyd Express
ThomsonFly
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:09 pm

FR fly into EMA aswell.
Will flybe offer seat allocation on these services?
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:13 pm

Richardw

I can't see flyBE changing the whole process because of a type change. One of the reasons I choose flyBE / BMIBaby over Easyjet / Ryanair is because I like to have a seat pre-assigned. Call me old fashioned....

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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:15 pm

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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:17 pm

"FR fly into EMA aswell."

Indeedy! They fly to DUB, GRO, MJV and, starting on 7th February, CIA.

I find it odd that BE will acquire ANOTHER type of aircraft. Talk about commonalty, efficiency, cost-reduction... still, from the consumer's point-of-view, the additional choice - and hopefully low prices - will be beneficial.
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:40 pm

I thought SOU was unable to handle the 737 on a regular basis due to the runway length and size of the facilities.

I thought the occasional 737 charter from Air Europa or EuroCypria put a struggle on the facilities and had to be specially timed not to arrive during their busy period.

I think Exeter may see some 737's as the Mini Hub there FlyBE has been operating is doing very well and they can comfortably handle the 737. This will free up some of the BAe 146's to be operated from Southampton.

Since when have airlines been able to obtain "Brand New" 737-300's, a their website states? As easyJet is disposing of their older 737-300's over the coming month's this could be where they are obtaining them from.

At the moment they have only made this one press release and everything else is speculation!
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:46 pm

"I think Exeter may see some 737's as the Mini Hub there FlyBE has been operating is doing very well and they can comfortably handle the 737."

Definitely! An empty 741/2 landed there the other week for storage. There's also the occasional, by which I mean yearly or biannual, 767 movement.
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:49 pm

Also Exeter gets a weekly A310 charter from Air Transit to Toronto via BHX.
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:54 pm

Gilesdavies,

I have seen a Britannia 757-200 land very easily at Southampton with quite a bit of runway to spare!


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So i don't really see a problem with a 737!
Don't really know though!

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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:55 pm

I find it odd that BE will acquire ANOTHER type of aircraft. Talk about commonalty, efficiency, cost-reduction... still, from the consumer's point-of-view, the additional choice - and hopefully low prices - will be beneficial

Probably a short term (few years) lease/patch until an NG aircraft replaces the 146s. I would think.
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:58 pm

Can someone more informed than I maybe advise us mere enthusiasts how much more it will cost BE to operate the 733 over the 146/Q400 type? Will it maybe cost less? If so can you expect to see lower fares on the routes from BHX?

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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:07 pm

European, as you may know, the 757 can land just about anywhere thanks to it's amazing performance, hence it can operate from shorter runways than, say a 737 or A320 can/
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:18 pm

GKirk is right, a light 757 beats the 737 hands down performance-wise, took a 752 SOU-PMI in Jul '03 it was great fun!
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:25 pm

The seat costs on a 733 are on par with at Dash8-400... however with two 733's in the fleet expect punctuality to plummet if anything happens.

Flybe are really throwing down the gauntlet to BMIBaby, who are now suffering from competition everywhere..... Will baby survive this winter?
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:31 pm

Rick767, a heavy 757 also beats a 737 hands down in performance also as I recently witnessed in TFS  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:35 pm

Can we get back on topic of flyBE 737's perchance?
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm

oK 7LBAC111, Im gonna guess they'll be ex easyJet or ex Ryanair 733s  Big grin
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:50 pm

Lol - thanks GKirk - am having a moody Monday morning!

I wonder will this be a change of direction for BE to become a true LCC and less of a regional.domestic operator?

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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:12 pm

"Im gonna guess they'll be ex easyJet or ex Ryanair 733s."

Possibly, as FR will be offering its 733s for lease from this December. Wasn't Jet2 after 6 machines? And FR has 6...
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:14 pm

ex FR B733s, are they the ex Buzz ones who happen to be ex....?
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:24 pm

'Ex FR B733s, are they the ex Buzz ones who happen to be ex....?'

What are you trying to say? That they've changed hands a few times? Aircraft changing hands. Well I never.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:33 pm

Damn those slutty 733s  Wink/being sarcastic  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:45 pm


BHX
Monarch Scheduled


I cannot see any Monarch Scheduled services operating from BHX - have they recently announced these?


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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:53 pm

Rumour is that the aircraft will be ex Go models, delivered new ex Boeing, so the aircraft wont be that 'slutty' (Go -> easy -> flybe)

I just hope they have plans to acquire more 733's as operating two aircraft is an operational integrity disaster waiting to happen if one just happens to go Tech for a weekend.
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:58 pm

Error on my part - Monarch only operates charters and NO scheduled services from BHX.

If one of the 733's goes Tech I am sure a 146-300 can do the job it only holds a few less passengers.
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:13 pm

A whole Dash 8-300's passenger load less!
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From

Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:19 pm

The FR/ Buzz B733s are going to bmibaby. Not suer if they all are, if not all a fair percentage of them.
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:19 pm

I heard from a mate who flies at Flybe that the initial aircraft is a wetlease from Astreus, operated in Flybe colors. Their own aircraft will come later...
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:24 pm

That makes a lot more sense than operating a two aircraft subfleet. Perhaps in 2005 we will see FlyBe ordering a 146 / 733 replacement - potentially the A319?

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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:00 pm

I was making the point that the ex FR B733s may be the ex Buzz aircraft, one of which I flew on STN-PAU-STN for a very good weekend away, of which Buzz hadn't had for very long and I'm not sure where Buzz got them from.
No criticism of them having changed hands was implied.
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:35 pm

The UKA aircraft came from Continental... Some of the FR 733 fleet is a mixture of CO/UKA/FR logos... Lowcost indeed.
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:44 am

After this thread I checked the website http://www.flybe.com and found out that FlyBe is flying to PGF from 5 freakin' destinations in England  Big thumbs up!! (I (first) thought only from SOU)
(my parents got a second house near PGF so obvious: the more connections, the better) There are no direct AMS - PGF flights so I fly via STN but from now on I can also fly to BHD, BHX, EDI, GLA and SOU from AMS and then on to PGF  Smile wicked  Smile

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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:27 am

Well if the first a/c is to be leased from AEU, god help the passengers unless they do some MAJOR work on the interiors, not just cover the seats. Those toilets smell like the fish counter at Tescos on a July day. They reek!
 
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RE: FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX

Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:48 am

will be interesting to see what happens at BHX. Will bmibaby battle it out with flybe ?or will they retreat back to EMA which isn't really very far away. Always thought it was a bit strange bmibaby setting up another base so close to EMA..
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