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American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:28 am

although even i deem this a somewhat useless thread, i think my question is valid. Despite American being shown in a somewhat decent light in the first home alone movie, (trying to get the mother home to her child, good customer service, etc...) why would they want to portray themselves in the 2nd movie in the way that they did.

For those of you who might not have seen it, MaCauley Caulkins character runs towards the gate agent and causes her to drop all the tickets, losing his ticket in the mix. He has the wrong ticket for the flight he is boarding (but she can't see that and he doesn't know) and she lets him on anyway. Showing that on you airline anyones family could get seperated isn't the best way to sat "American Airlines: Something Special in the Air" (which was their slogan at the time). anyway, just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on that issue, it interests me. for whatever reason im not sure?
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:30 am

I think it is just Hollywood.. If AA actually did their job on the movie, the movie wouldn't quite be the same.. color me crazy, but I think it would have probably have been a pretty short movie.

Just a thought.. but who would pay to go to a movie where the little boy doesn't get put on the plane and have to sit in the terminal for days?

and the title Lost in New York would seem kinda stupid if he never made it to New York!

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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:01 am

It seems to me in the first movie the F/A head count would not have tallied with the collected boarding passes..... or would they have pushed back anyway?

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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:28 am

It's hollywood.

They portrayed a 737 as being the plane some guy flew in on from Europe.
Don't think so. And I think they portrayed Catherine O'Hara's character as flying into Scranton on a DC-10, if I'm not mistaken. Have to go back and look.

Besides, think of how much face publicity American got from the first movie anyway. It played in each average cinema for ~ what...8 months?


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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:40 am

Only those of us here at a.net seem to notice these things. As far as some people are concerned, McDonnell Douglas is a branch of the same company that advertises with golden arches, and Boeing is the sound of a spring or a coil as it bounces.  Big grin

Remember, the movie-going public accepted "Die Hard 2", even though they giggled through the WORST non-sequitors in movie history (i.e., ground-to-flight telephone calls, "Pacific Bell" at Dulles airport, no airport within a four-to-five hour flying range of Dulles), so if there's a little bit of an unbelievable scene, WE notice it and remember it, but the average public? They might not even be able to mention any other name but Macauley Culkin.
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:27 am

I always used to chuckle when Kevin McAllister (Culkin) ran into the gate agent and dropped his boarding pass in the pile...then she just says, "Ok, go find an empty seat..."

I'm willing to speculate that after Sept. 11th, if a movie ever filmed a scene so blatantly innacurrate, even the general public would at it and go, "Yea, right."

Then again, it's Hollywood...so who knows.  Smile
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:42 am

Well of course it's hollywood! The movie wouldn't have a plot if this didn't happen. Any publicity is good publicity. And for the experts like us, we are thinking about it aren't we . . . The whole idea of marketing is to have the customer think about your product. They know you are in the market and next time you fly, you will probably check out AA.
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:27 am

The airline involved shall remain nameless (mainly because I can't remember which one), but managed to board a flight with the right head count, right number of boarding passes, matching the manifest, with one person supposed to be travelling somewhere completely different - all with a TV crew filming at the time! This was "Airport" or "Airline", probably the former. Wasn't until it started taxiing did the passenger realise he was on the wrong plane!

So, yes it does happen.

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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:33 am

Unrelated side note with regards to Home Alone 2: Lost in New York:

The scene in which Kevin (Caulkin) is on the outside Obervation Deck of the World Trade Center; at the time, that scene seemed fairly insignificant. Now, however, that scene alone may have a whole new meaning or significance in the lives of many Americans; particularly those whose loved ones were lost on 9/11.
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:05 am

Obviously without Kevin getting on the wrong flight the movie would not have happened. however, many (nearly all) movies involving airlines in the past have used fake airline names, i.e.; Trans Global (Airport), Columbia Airlines (Airport 75), ummm i can't remember the name of the fake airline for airplane!, etc..etc..

anyway. i spent so long trying to look up the name of the fake airline in airplane! i can't remember what i was going to say. damnit. im gonna get back to work.
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:25 am

remember he put on his headset when she was doing her announcements.....also....i believe they flew to EWR....based on the view from the terminal.
 
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:05 am

Also in the first movie it is a morning flight to Paris from Chicago? Also they take off in a DC10 and land in a 767
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:36 am

If anything, what did AA operate from ORD-CDG back around 1990?
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:11 am

The airline involved shall remain nameless (mainly because I can't remember which one), but managed to board a flight with the right head count, right number of boarding passes, matching the manifest, with one person supposed to be travelling somewhere completely different - all with a TV crew filming at the time! This was "Airport" or "Airline", probably the former. Wasn't until it started taxiing did the passenger realise he was on the wrong plane!

So, yes it does happen.

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I can attest to the fact that it does happen indeed. Had anyone told me that it was possible I would have said hell no. That is until it happended to me! I ended up in completely the wrong city and then tried the rest of the day trying to get out to where I should have been.
 
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:35 am

You guys are giving the American movie going public wayyyy too much credit with these movie questions. Just having AA's name in a major box office smach hit like Home Alone is good enough advertising for them. Trust me, the typical public does not even begin to think about such things. Only we pick things like that up.
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:32 pm


Planecrazy?

AA did not fly into CDG back in 1990. They flew into Orly and it wasn't until they were "forced" did they eventually switch in 1998 to CDG.
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:37 pm

I love movies when are planes or airports on it. Of course there´s so many. Home Alone and the flight ORD-CDG and the flights back to the US. Then in Home Alone 2 and the flights ORD-MIA and ORD-EWR. I think are cool!. Ok, its hollywood, but a REAL airlne (maybe a little fantasy) makes the movie more realistic, i must to say. When i was at ORD for a connection to virginia on AA and then i realize that i was in a ACTUAL movie set!!!! I mean that airport area where kevin mcalister mistakes the concourse!! Wow! i walked there and i was so happy!!!!! Here at SCL not film many movies some tv spots and thats it.

Anyone remember that movie about a girl flying to venice from the States trying to meet her "lifetime" boyfriend?? Acting Marisa Tomey, Robert Downy JR and billy zane...among others... in that movie appears an Alitalia and a TWA planes... if am not wrong.

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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:38 pm

Lets also remember the McCalisters flew a morning flight to Paris. A Transatlantic flight in the morning is quite rare.

Kevin missed the NYC announcement in part 2 because he was jamming to his head set 'talk boy' was the name of it.

The Scranton DC-10 scene was taped at DFW, you can see the AA hanger in the back.

When Mrs. McCalister leaves Paris, she leaves on a MD-80, MD80 AA at ORY..Hmmm

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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:00 pm

Planespotting:

Wasn't the name of the fictional airline in "Airplane!" called "Trans American Airways"?

I'm pretty sure it had "Trans" something in it.

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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:45 pm

Here are some inaccuracies that I found in the two movies.

Home Alone:
1. The ORD-ORY flight was an early evening departure, between 5 and 6 pm. I think AF may have had morning departures on JFK-CDG, but no one out of ORD had a morning departure for CDG or ORY.

2. The plane that was shown departing ORD was a DC-10-10. That didn't have trans-Atlantic range.

3. AA was using 767ERs on ORD-ORY, so the DC-10 was completely wrong.

4. I don't think AA ever flew to Scranton.

5. When you see the family running through the Paris airport, that was actually the underground passage connecting Terminal 3 at ORD with the parking garage.

6. If I recall correctly, didn't they first send Kevin's mother to DFW, then to Scranton? ORD-DFW is one of AA's busiest routes. You can always walk up and get on a plane, eventually. It's almost like the BOS-LGA-DCA shuttle.

Home Alone 2:

1. Kevin's family was shown departing on a 767 for MIA, while Kevin was on a 767 departing for LGA. AA never flew 767s on ORD-MIA. The only widebody at the time on the route was the A300.

2. I'm not sure if AA was still flying the 767 on ORD-LGA at the time, but the widebodies tended to go at rush hour, 6-9am or 4-7pm. I think their departure was late morning, so it would have been a 727 or an MD-80.

3. If you noticed, that Kevin turned to his left after entering the L1 door. That was the 747SP mock-up used for F/A training.

4. Any time I've flown first, I've been addressed by name when being asked for my pre-departure drink. The F/A would have started asking questions when she has an unaccounted passenger in First.

 
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:09 am

Ckfred,

I think you might get flamed for it but, it's a movie and for that sole reason they can do whatever the hell they want, including being incorrect in their scenes compaired to reality. BUT the only one who's going to know it is someone who is either an a.net member and/or viewer and those who are in the aviation industry and that's not who they are trying to get through their movvies, they want to attract thosoe who will pay attention to the story and the plot and not the actual flight numbers, routes, etc. That is probably one of the biggest parts for us but for them it's just "another scene"...

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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:20 am

The shot of the plane touching down was LGA.
The view of the city was from Queens. It was on the east side of Manhattan. However, that was a bit closer than the view from LGA.

The inside of the airport was still ORD.
 
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:45 am

The only thing that really bothered me was when the family was running through Ohare to catch the Paris flight in Terminal 1 (united).... to catch an American flight. Kind of minor but just drove me nuts that they portrayed the beautiful Terminal 1 as AA's.
 
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:52 am

Um....it's a movie people! ...and Home Alone at that!

I found it cool that AA had exposure period...regardless if it was all comical...or showing a DC-10 knowing that it did not fly that route...who cares!
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:52 am

CKfred:

if i am not mistake you are incorrect in a few of your assertions of Home Alone 2.

The movie portrayed both airplanes (ORD-New York and ORD-MIA) as Airbus A300's, as the logo "Airbus A300 Luxury Liner" is clearly visible under the cockpit close to the nose on both aircraft as they depart.
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:57 am

Responding to the comments above with respect to pax mistakenly boarding the wrong flight:

I understand this was fairly common in the days before EGRs, which nowadays spit out an incorrect boarding pass when it's scanned at the boarding gate. I was talking to a DL pilot a few months ago who recalled the story of a grandmother from South Georgia who inadvertently boarded his ATL-BDA flight instead of her flight to DFW.

Apparently she didn't realize she was on the wrong plane until the scenery made it clear that she wasn't going to Dallas... I'm sure it's a nightmare for those of us who don't have a weakness for planes or beautiful beaches.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:12 am

The airliner in Airplane! was Trans American. At the end of the movie though they thanked Trans American Freightways. What's the story with them?
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:58 am

You guys, please...

The original topic was about WHY AA allowed their brand to be featured in the movie when it was going to portray a rather sloppy airline. It's not about what you find to be inaccurate in Hollywoods portrayal of aviation such as what plane was flown and where!

Planespotting was right. Hollywood often uses fictional airlines, especially when they cannot get legal rights to use a real airline name. The question is WHY did AA go ahead and let them use their name. I still haven't seen a proper answer to his question. Stick to the topic guys. There are plenty of pointless threads on this site about Hollywood's aviation inaccuracies!
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RE: American Airlines And The Home Alone Movies

Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:59 am

I'm surprised they used the name American instead of AIRLINER like they did on 405
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