latinaviation
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Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:34 pm

I wonder if this all Business Class MD-80 product will be similar to what ACES used to operate? And, of course, who will operate them to the US on his behalf, because he cannot operate Venezuelan-registered aircraft to the US.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/10081850.htm?1c

Aeropostal, a Venezuelan airline owned by a Cuban-born Miamian, plans to expand its service from South Florida, launching its first all-cargo flights and adding passenger routes through affiliated carriers.

Early next year, the airline will add two daily flights to Caracas. At that point, all the Miami-Venezuela flights will operate with MD-82s with all business-class seats but economy fares, said Ramiz, who splits his time between his business in Caracas and his family in Coral Gables.
 
TACAA320
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:39 pm

How many a/cs are destinated to the CCS/MIA route?

Are they also leased from Falcon Air?

Definitely this is great news!
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:41 pm

That's what I don't understand is who will operate the MD-82s to Miami for them. Falcon doesn't have any and, iirc, does not have them on their certificate. Unless by registering the Costa Rican airline, they transfer the YV registered MD-80s and operate them with Costa Rican registrations to the US.
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:45 pm

Excellent news!!! so now we'll have 4 daily CCS-MIA flights on MD80s with business class seats, this is great!!!  Smile Smile Smile

They also talk about Aeropostal: Alas de Centroamérica, which is based in SJO. Aeropostal will fly SJO-FLL-SJO with MD80s also.

Thanks for sharing LatinAviation, I have a big smile on my face now  Smile
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:54 pm

Actually, Mark beat me to it, here's his original post:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1805803/

I was looking for it before I posted, he rarely misses these things.
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:03 pm

Luisde8cd

Hi my friend,

Any news about Alas de Centroamérica? When do they start business?

Do you know their web page address?

Sorry. Too many questions.

Thanks,
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:23 pm

@TACAA320

Hi, I found some info about Alas de Centroamerica. Hope it helps.

http://www.ca-plus.net/news/101104/english/honduras/default.asp

"Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela currently flies a few relatively new Airbuses, along with Boeing 727s y DC9s that date from the 1980s."

Guess the writer got some outdated information about Aeropostal's fleet  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:02 pm

Thanks for the information B757200

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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:05 pm

By the way, Ramiz hints at this in his interview, but the start of Aeropostal was anything but smooth. He bought those planes and their certificate out of Venezuelan bankruptcy proceedings with the help of US and Israeli investors who thought he was going to re-sell that planes. Ramiz, up until this point, was an airplane trader, not airline manager.

This caused an enormous amount of legal activity... his partners sued him, vice versa. Essentially, Ramiz couldn't enter Venezuela without threat of being jailed for a little over a year. He ran the airline from Miami via one of his advisors in CCS, Saul Montejo.

It all got sorted out in the end, right when they started service to the US. All of this was filed publicly in the US docket system because the US entity that backed Ramiz, Aeron Holdings, and the Israeli's, who incorporated in Jersey, tried to block him and filed everything in a public docket to air some dirty luandry on the deal. Long, to be certain, but excellent reading.
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:32 am

Is Aeropostal flying Airbuses?


I think not, but please correct me if I'm wrong.


Thanks,
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:12 am

Hi all,

regarding Alas de Centroamerica, the start is now expected for March 05.
TACAA320, no, there are no Airbusses in the fleet right now.
The expansion of AeroHonduras will start in December, when the second 737 is put into service for Managua-Miami and the DC9 transfered from CCS to TGU to operate SAL and SAN.
Apart of that the first Dornier 328 for the regional operations are expected to arrive in CCS these days to be put in service beginning of December.
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:48 am

The Aeropostal Cargo 727 has been sitting outside a maintenance hangar at Miami for at least a month, after being painted. Not sure what the delay is. It has a U.S. registration.

[Edited 2004-11-03 23:51:40]
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:22 am

Apart of that the first Dornier 328 for the regional operations are expected to arrive in CCS these days to be put in service beginning of December.

What routes will that a/c be used on? is it the turboprop or the jet model?
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:25 am

That seems like it will saturate the capacity of MIA CCS route--what with Santa Barb, AA, LAN--are there others too?

I mean there are limits on the route--

Good for Aeropostal though.

I am surprised somebody doesnt start a MIA PMV service--I know Aeropostal had it years ago--I am sure they could fill a daily flight--
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:17 am

That seems like it will saturate the capacity of MIA CCS route--what with Santa Barb, AA, LAN--are there others too?


This is not saturating capacity. Aeropostal is reducing capacity, by going from Y-configured 727s to C-configured MD80s. They will still offer only two daily MIA-CCS flights. They will offer a total of four daily flights to MIA when you add in the daily MIA-MAR and MIA-VLN flights.
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:58 pm

Alas de Centroamerica is already hiring (and has hired pilots) in Costa Rica. Training will start soon for another group of pilots.
It's great to see this happening around Central America and let's see how the entry of this new airline will affect the market prices.

Saludos

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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:54 pm

What routes will that a/c be used on? is it the turboprop or the jet model?
We had that on a previous post. There will be 12 turboprops service amongst others:
San Tome
Merida
Ciudad Bolivar
Cumana
San Fernando
Puerto Ayacucho
Grenada
Barbados
and some interciudades and internationals from MAR.
Hopefully they also consider someting like MAR-BOG !
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:17 pm

Great! good news to see Aeropostal expanding...I guess Santa Barbara was starting to catch up on them!

So let's see ... now we have AA, LAN, Aeropostal and Santa Barbara with scheduled service to CCS from MIA...That is alot of flights.
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:09 am

I guess Santa Barbara was starting to catch up on them!
I would not say that. Santa Barbara is operating about 2 Cessna Caravan, 3 or 4 ATR42, one 727, one or two DC10 and one 757.
Aeropostal has 18 DC9, 4 MD83 and 2 727. That´s a difference. Wtih 12 Dornier and some more surprises to come, the gap will even grow.
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:45 am

Umm...Im speaking about CCS-MIA service Chiguire with regards to my comment. I would much rather fly a 752 of SB than a 722 of Aeropostal.
Not talking about overall Fleet comparison...
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:07 am

SORRY MIASkies.
Here you are definitely right ! I would also prefer a 757 ! And I am not sure if the decision to use a C-config is a good one. Aeropostal is not known as good C-airline up to now. It looks more like a desperate step to me.
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:24 am

Definetly...Sounds like they are trying to really make a desperate attempt to get back some of their passengers from SB!

Should be interesting to see how this all plays out...

Saludos !

Ciao.
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:24 am

I'm flying to BOS on Feb. I was going to fly CCS-MIA on SB and then FLL-BOS on US. Now i'll fly CCS-MIA on VH. I've heard that SB's coach class gets really crowed and there's little legroom, so if VH offers my a business class product paying coach fare, I will definetely fly them.
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:38 am

Hola Luisde8cd
I am afraid you might be too fast. I doubt that VH will already offer that product in February. Everything they do needs a lot of time, Just remember the regional plans. It´s now about two years (!!) ago that Ramiz said he will serve regional routes with Saab aircraft. If we are lucky this happens now in winter season with Dornier328. You know, seeing is believing ! They are talking to go to Europe since... it´s soooo long ago, I even don´t remember.
But one thing is for sure...you will probably have a lot of space when flying VH to MIA, no matter if in Y or C ! Just let me know the date, I will get you a good seat...  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Aeropostal To Expand In Miami

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:52 am

I just noticed that Aeropostal has relaunched their .com -site
http://www.aeropostal.com the german site remains the old one
http://www.aeropostal.de.
Aserca offers online booking now:
http://www.asercaairlines.com.