thowman
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Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:43 am

Breaking news on BBC Radio 5 - a wing tip collision at MAN....

A ground collision - no injuries reported according to Reuters

[Edited 2004-11-04 18:50:33]
 
planespotterx
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:51 am

Oh no...hope everyone is ok and damage is minimal..
Its not the fall that kills u, its the sudden stop at the end..
 
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:51 am

BMIbaby 737 and Excel 767 by the sounds of it.
 
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:10 am

Heard about it on rockfm about 10 minutes ago. I heard it was a BMI Baby, but not sure about the other airline.

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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:22 am

BBC news Northwest has the latest at 18:30 if anyones in the NW and can watch it, I'll tell you guys the latest as soon as it comes on.
Its not the fall that kills u, its the sudden stop at the end..
 
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:25 am

BBC News article here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3983795.stm

Glad to see nobody was injured.
 
planespotterx
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:33 am

Apparently according to the Granada TV news one of the wings of the aircraft went through the tail of the other, no injuries reported and 5 ambulances are on the scene as well as emergency crews, but not needed as far as were aware.
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:42 am

I was going to say....I don't think the wing tip of the 767 and the 737 would bump! Height difference alone!


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BMI701EGCC
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:56 am

LATEST:


There where two aircrafts where involved in the evening incident a Ringway International (Manchester). They where a BMI Baby 737 and an Excel Airways 767. This incident happened around 17:00pm (local time), The cause of this accident is still being investigated.

On the bmibaby Boeing 737 there were 79 people on board - 74 passengers and 5 crew. The Excel Airways had 255 passengers on board.
The passengers have been taken off both aircraft.

Flight Numbers
Excel – XLA340 Boeing 767 from Manchester to Goa
Bmibaby - WW3007 Boeing 737 from Manchester to Belfast International

Flight Types
Scheduled (bmi) and charter (Excel Airways)

Departure/Arrival times
The scheduled time of departure for the bmi flight was 16.15.
The scheduled time of departure for the Excel Airways flight was 15.30. The Excel Airways flight arrived at Manchester from Gatwick at 14.45 with passengers who were flying from Gatwick to Goa.


My beliefs are that both aircraft might of collided when pushing back from T1, as both have gates there. Another stated situation was that they collided on taxiing to 24L, this seens the obvious outcome.

I have just been listening to the Manchester airband frequencies, and it looks like the GND frequency (121.85) has been disabled for obvious reasons (excluding operational purposes). The tone of the TWR ATC seemed alittle down beat as expected. It seems very strange that two airliners of different type such as these could collide in a wingtip brush incident, Manchester GND has a very good view of the movements at MAN and seems very strange that this incident could not of been spotted sooner.


Will have more details as soon as they become available.


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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:29 am

Sounds to me like there may be an opening at MAN tower for a ground ops controller!
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:30 am

Hi,

BMI701EGCC: Excel Airways operate from T2.

This is the latest picture from Sky News:



No news as to how exactly it happened.

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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:38 am

Breaking news on BBC Radio 5 - a wing tip collision at MAN....

Wow, this has got to be a very boring day if that is breaking news...
 
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:36 am

I agree - it was hyped up big time. They almost sounded disappointed when telling us there were no injuries. And the passengers interview just gave a very frank description of what happened - no drama.

But the news reader interviewing the communications manager at MAN was almost trying to make him admit it was a disaster!
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:49 am

THOMASCOOK: That comment was a mistake. I no that XLA operate from T2, I don't know what made me think they operated form T1  Confused . I didn't have the time to take it off.

My apologies




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thowman
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:29 am

In my defence, the first reports were just of a collision at MAN. It was only a few minutes later that they gave more info - and I edited my initial post to reflect this. I think the initial report worried a lot of people according to the appology the presenter of "drivetime" gave.

Breaking news means.....something just hitting the headlines which at the time of the post it was - I don't really see what your beef is Fritzi? Whether it be several hundred people perishing (and thank god it wasn't) or just what was in the end - a minor incident - I think you need to understand what the phrase "breaking news" means. Following the site rules I left the phrase out of the topic title.

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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:23 am

You've got to love the BBC.

First of all:
"Inquiry into airport runway crash" followed by "...touched wings outside Terminal Two."

Hmmmm. My above-average knowledge of the basic layout of Manchester Airport tells me that there is no runway outside T2.

"Runway crash" could suggest something on the scale of the Tenerife Pan Am/KLM tragedy. A scraped wing-tip at low-speed on the taxiway can not fall in to the same category. I thought the BBC were above this tabloid-style sensationalist journalism. Obviously I'm wrong.

Sorry, rant over. Glad to hear it was relatively minor, and there were no injuries. Hope the two birds are back in the sky before long.

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richm
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:35 pm

Does anyone know the model/reg of the 737?

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thegregster
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:06 am

The Bmi 737 is a 400 i believe and the inciedent happed as the 762 was taking off, a passanger statment says people were screaming and the plane was almost out of control,ive just had a look at the 762 and it appears to have very little damage.

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Simon Cooper
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:43 am

Baby don't have -400's, just -300 and -500's.

The aircraft was G-ODSK a series 300.

Any news on the damage?
 
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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:03 am

The bmibaby was B737-300 (G-ODSK).

The Excel Airways was B767-200 (G-SATR).

Some photos of the damage to both aircraft can be found below.

B767 Wing Damage

B737 Tail Damage

B737 Nose Wheel Damage

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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:41 am

For those who are of the opinion this was a 'minor' news or aviation item, the seriousness of the situation was certainly not underestimated by either ATC or the AAIB.

Whilst damage was visually not that bad, there was concern amongst the 762 crew that a fuel tank had been ruptured and that they were suffering an uncontained fuel loss.

ATC very rapidly upgraded the 'incident' to a 'full emergency' and then rightfully so up to an 'aircraft accident,' which resulted in all the outside emergency agencies being called up in addition to the airfield units.

Aircraft Accidents are not confined to the air, and to dismiss this occurrence as a non-item would be foolish indeed.

Additionally, the BBC and Sky were not too far off the mark to say the accident had occurred on a runway, as the WW 737 was pushed over the stop-bar, resulting in 24L being closed until the AAIB arrived to inspect and consequently release the scene area.

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RE: Collision At MAN - Wingtips Only

Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:31 pm

hello a.netters. if you want the hyped -up story just read todays friday 5 of november edition of the Daily mirror....how dramatic they made it..one media source says its a wing tip collision whilst taxi-ing out to the runway...and one source "daily mirror" says it was hurtling down the runway when it smashed into another aircraft.!! i just so hate the media  Angry