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Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:36 am

"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
 
geoffm
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:36 am

For those that don't want to sign their life away to Dallasnews.com, here's a summary:
-Thru the 90s, avg weight of Americans gone up 10lbs, causing increase of $275m to burn 350m more gallons of fuel in 2000
-3.8m extra tons of CO2
-65% of Americans overweight or obese 1999-2002
-SW Airlines charge obese passengers an extra seat
-Alaska Airlines include a child weight figure in their passenger calculations

It's not just people either - why should I subsidise my co-traveller's 30kg of bags when I've only got 10kg?

Geoff M.
 
moman
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:48 am

Doesn't surpise me. I don't want to be the one stuck beside the big dude taking up half of my seat that I paid for and making my trip uncomfortable.

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Bicoastal
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:16 am

Following on Oneworld's statement....yes, Hz747300, how dare you insult traveling pets like that. Why should they have to travel with the fat people?  Big grin
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pilotaydin
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:19 am

ever watch the show airline with southwest, the one where they had this particular issue on hand, they had the guy go to the a/c to see if his body fit inbetween the arm-rests? it was quite funny, yet sad at the same time....

treadmill time !
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Pacman769
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:22 am

Here is the article on Fox News.com... for free and w/o any registration requirements to view it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137636,00.html

AP-
 
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:33 am

I think airlines also lose a lot more in loyalty. An overweight passenger that had to buy a second ticket at the gate would be unlikely to fly X airline again. But if the overweight person didn't buy two tickets, then the person sitting next to them would have a horrible flight and now want to fly on X airlines again because they will have recurring thoughts of how horrible the flight was. The only way to solve the perpetual lose lose problem would be to go like Midwest and have business class seating throughout your entire plane.
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TWA902fly
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:36 am


which is why all the airlines in america are losing money...

::dodges bricks for making such a generalization of americans::

just kidding i live here too, and ill probably end up being fat sometime too, thanks to my car and mcdonalds.

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Byrdluvs747
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:40 am

I'll catch hell for this, but one could also say that overweight flyers are also bad for the environment. Planes are burning more fuel to fly the same distances.
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hz747300
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:42 am

I'll catch hell for this, but one could also say that overweight flyers are also bad for the environment. Planes are burning more fuel to fly the same distances.

Not to mention, fat people are more gassy.
Keep on truckin'...
 
pilotaydin
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:49 am

if they are going to target overweight people, then i can see the overweight people point at those who get away at check-in counters with overweight bags....similar effect to airline costs...more weight, no money.
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Byrdluvs747
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:02 am


then i can see the overweight people point at those who get away at check-in counters with overweight bags....similar effect to airline costs...more weight, no money.


I agree. I believe airlines/airports should start enforcing carryon size/weight limits. However, overweight people and carryon baggage are also two seperate issues. While both cost more in fuel, the oversize carryons don't cause discomfort for fellow seatmates.
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Ken777
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:21 am

When you talk about people being over the "average" weight you also have to take into consideration how many people who are under the average weight are flying, from the very thin to little kids. Taken all together they generate the average pax weight.

As for the hugely overweight, I tend to support the need to buy two seats. But then the airline has to ensure that they get both seats, even if it means pre-boarding.

For the the problem is is pax, even thin ones, who can't keep their elbows within the armrests, especially while eating.
 
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RE: Fat Flyers Cost Airlines More

Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:23 pm

Byrdluvs747

However, overweight people and carryon baggage are also two separate issues. While both cost more in fuel, the oversize carryons don't cause discomfort for fellow seatmates.


Should Mrs. X decide to get onboard with carry-on luggage three times the usual limit, she takes up space in the overhead bins other passengers were supposed to utilize. No space for my bag then, I guess it will have to go under the seat in front of me?

Does it cause me discomfort? Yes.

Rgds

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